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@Train Dodger I told you to contact your therapist because you are still posting on KiwiFarms where people are verbally abusing you because you can't let this go. To the point that your endangering your online safety my spazzing put in a den of vipers that has already bitten you repeatedly.

It's insane.

Also you research is cherry picked, you're not fully reading the context of your claims, like the idea that it travels in air more than 6 feet (they were looking at public transit and airplanes iirc) and you're engaging in pointless fear mongering rather than looking after your mental health and personal well being.

Its unhinged. Whether or not China is lying about things (they are), you are not some internet messiah who is going to save us all by exposing something that's half there or isn't. You're just proving to everyone that you don't know how to drop something you fixate on. Which is why you're still moronically posting on KF after you doxxed yourself to a hate community that is universally known for its doxxing. And why you're lapping up praise from the people you helped fuck over on SB over on TS.

These are not the actions of someone who is being rational right now. This is "Any port in a storm" for attention.

First of all, I did not "fuck over" the people on TS. That was Horton's whole game. All I did was tell him and the others to cover their tracks if they were going to do it. I did not materially assist in that endeavor at all.

Secondly, I have been back and forth with multiple PhD biologists, neurologists, immunologists, and other people over this, and they all agreed that my aggregation of papers was very valuable. It's not "cherry-picked". It is a reasonably accurate picture of what COVID-19 does to the human body.

Let me describe what happens to severe and critical COVID-19 patients. Mind you, this is based on anecdotal reports that I'm seeing from our actual ICU care specialists, who are currently on the front lines with this thing.

First, they get a little flu. It seems like nothing. A few days go by, their lungs keep getting worse. A week later, they're in the hospital with bilateral viral pneumonia with patchy ground-glass abnormalities visible on CT scan. Their O2 saturation is down into the hypoxemic range, below 90% and sometimes as low as 75%. They have shortness of breath. They can't seem to get enough air. They show up at the ER and then they get moved and get inpatient treatment in the hospital.

If they're lucky, they go on a nasal cannula, get oxygen for a while until their lungs recover, maybe get some antivirals and antibiotics, and then, they get discharged. Just like SARS, they often have some lung scarring and as much as 20 to 30% reduction in lung function, which will eventually lead to chronic fatigue syndrome. They may have mental issues and chronic pain from being traumatized and from the virus attacking their nervous system. If they were given methylprednisolone to deal with inflammation, they may develop osteonecrosis of their joints. If male, they may have abnormalities in testosterone and luteinizing hormone indicating testicular dysfunction. In short, the experience has partly crippled them.

If they're not lucky, they go critical. They get intubated and put on a mechanical ventilator. Beyond this point, only about 1 in 5 patients survive.

Their pneumonia gets worse and progresses to ARDS. They have pericarditis and myocarditis; their heart muscle is dissolving into their bloodstream and they have elevated troponin and myoglobin levels in their blood. Bacteria starts infecting their lungs and their blood turns septic. The myoglobinemia and direct renal tubular damage of the virus precipitates acute kidney injury requiring dialysis to treat. They show hypokalemia, abnormal AST/ALT and elevated ferritin indicating mild viral hepatitis, and they have low lymphocytes, low platelets, and low white blood cell counts. Their tissues are assaulted by a cytokine storm, their T helpers overactivated and spewing inflammatory cytokines that are destroying and scarring their vital organs. The virus crawls up the parasympathetic nerves of their lungs, into the vagus nerve, and into the brain stem, where it causes dysautonomia and depresses their breathing. Their bloodstream begins to fill up with clots consisting of bits of their dissolved heart muscle, bacteria, and virus clumped together. These clots cause infarcts; heart attacks and strokes.

One of these clots ends up in their heart, they go into cardiac arrest, they code, and it's game over.

Treating severe and critical COVID-19 patients is a marathon that involves checking blood pressure and doing blood labs and liver labs, following stringent infection control measures, and administering antipyretics, antivirals, antibiotics, expectorants, and all sorts of other shit just to try and keep the patient alive. Our healthcare workers are getting burned out and sickened treating these people. They're running out of PPE.

For saying all of this, I have been:
  • Banned from two forums that I was a long-standing member of and almost banned from a third.
  • Relentlessly gaslighted by people who I thought were my friends.
  • Called everything from a "doomer", to a "schizo", to a "conspiracy theorist".
  • Harassed by my coworkers.
  • Blamed for people eating aquarium treatment.
  • Doxxed.
I have spent hundreds of hours watching leaked videos, cross-referencing everything, reading papers, submitting my aggregated info to experts for review, and trying to unravel the pathology of this disease.

I did it with the sole intent of saving people's lives.

For this, I have been relentlessly mocked and abused, driven towards the darkest corners of the internet with torches and pitchforks.

Honestly, how dare you?
 
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"For the top students, they will be better prepared for top universities," Tang said. "For the other students, they will have a higher chance of achieving an academic breakthrough and a shot at their dream schools."

However, the delayed gaokao may only add to the pressure felt by overstressed students.

"For some students who are already burned out because of the gaokao, this is not good news," a Shanghai student surnamed Lei told Sixth Tone. Yet he believes that having an extra month to study will make up for any edge lost during the past two months of distance learning. "For undisciplined students like me, the online classes aren't as effective as real ones," Lei said.

Some teachers and parents, meanwhile, have expressed concerns about the gaokao being rescheduled during the hottest time of the year.

"The gaokao was moved to June (in 2003) because the weather got to be too hot in July," a veteran high school teacher surnamed Hong told Sixth Tone. "If it's later in the summer, this may cause controversy between parents and students about whether they should study and take the exams in air-conditioned rooms. They might worry about the students catching cold, or not being able to focus because of the noise from the air conditioners."

 
One of my coworkers just died of COVID-19:


This was what I was trying to prevent. :cry:

You complain about being doxxed but then post personal information you asked the SB staff to scrub off SB on a forum where you use a handle that is known to the people that doxxed you. Sorry about your coworker but lets not pretend that you aren't doing this to yourself.
 
You complain about being doxxed but then post personal information you asked the SB staff to scrub off SB on a forum where you use a handle that is known to the people that doxxed you. Sorry about your coworker but lets not pretend that you aren't doing this to yourself.

Too late. They already know anyway, so what's the point in hiding it?

Oh gee, what's this?

Remember how I was banned for implying - not even outright stating, just implying - that China might be cremating an unusually large number of people, and that the smog in Wuhan was indicative of that?

Stacks of urns.


Stacks of urns.


Business Insider and Time. Not Breitbart or Natural News or InfoWars.

Mainstream outlets are saying this.

So, basically, I was banned for being right.

Forty to fifty thousand people died of COVID-19 in Wuhan and were cremated, not 2,500.

I was right all along. Honestly, I wish I wasn't.
 
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You were right about the death toll being higher. You get a pat on the back for realizing the obvious, the Chinese lied about what happened. Everyone is surprised. No one saw that coming. We were caught unawares. Who could have suspected an image focused regime would do such a thing. You're a visionary.
 
China to Count Asymptomatic Coronavirus Carriers as Confirmed Cases

Beginning Wednesday, people who test positive for coronavirus but do not show symptoms will be counted as confirmed infections in China, the country's National Health Commission said Tuesday.

The announcement comes a day after Premier Li Keqiang emphasized the need to monitor, track, quarantine, and treat asymptomatic patients at a meeting of China's leading COVID-19 experts.

According to an official notice, Li said that once asymptomatic patients are identified, the government should arrange quarantine and medical treatment, identify the source of infection as quickly as possible, and round up close contacts for medical observation.

Li added that information on asymptomatic patients should be transparently disclosed, while late reporting or underreporting should be avoided.

Under China's current COVID-19 diagnosis and treatment guideline, asymptomatic carriers are not counted as "confirmed cases." However, a study published Saturday found that close contacts of these "silent carriers" were statistically just as likely to become infected as those of sick patients.
 
You were right about the death toll being higher. You get a pat on the back for realizing the obvious, the Chinese lied about what happened. Everyone is surprised. No one saw that coming. We were caught unawares. Who could have suspected an image focused regime would do such a thing. You're a visionary.

I saw rows and rows of body bags.



I saw them weld people inside their homes.



I heard an entire city screaming in agony and terror.



Do you know what a panic attack feels like?

It feels like you're being attacked by an invisible bear. You become totally convinced that you're about to die. Your fight-or-flight response is activated out of nothing. Your hands begin to shake. Adrenaline surges into your body. Your vision dims around the edges into a long, narrow tunnel. You hyperventilate, but it feels like you can't get enough air into your lungs, no matter how hard you try. Your ears ring. Your face and your extremities go numb. You feel like you're suffocating. You get up and scream and run from a threat that does not even exist.

And then, bang, it's gone.

Like a relief valve going off, all that adrenaline suddenly disappears and you're left shaking, embarrassed, and confused, hoping nobody saw or heard it.

I've had panic attacks off and on for the past 10 years. This pandemic did not help.

This is such a typical cycle for me. I say something controversial, and then everyone tries to make it about me, somehow. And then, I'm left defending myself against personal attacks that have nothing to do with my original point at all.

And then, as if to completely dismiss any altruistic intentions I may have had, the four magic words come out.

"This isn't about you."

Like a magic charm, these four little words let sniveling, do-nothing weasels imagine that they have the moral high ground.

I don't care what people think of me. I'm going to keep fighting against this thing. I don't have a choice.
 
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Have you considered not surfing youtube for coronavirus related things if Coronavirus related things give you panic attacks?

It doesn't matter. I couldn't stop seeing it in my head. I kept looking at the faces of my coworkers and wondering which ones I'd never see again, because this disease took them. I tried warning them, and they didn't wanna hear it. They threw my warnings right back in my face. They just didn't give a shit.


I am trying to protect my friends and family. I am trying to save lives. That is all I'm trying to do.
 
1400 cases and 49 dead cumulative so far in Greece.

Thing are relatively under control but there had been 2000 notations and just over 1000 fines today for curfew breaking without the neccesary papers.

People are growing weary of the curfew and things will get worse as Easter approaches

Either its Italy/Spain hell and everyone stays in for being scared shitless or early shut down keeps things relatively normal and fatigue sets in.

A bit of of a catch 22 this
 
Hm, I've just managed in under 10 minutes to ask for child care benefits for my wife AND to enroll said child in school for the next school year, without having to get up from my computer and even without having to scan anything. How interesting... suddenly a lot of things that absolutely needed sending a lot of signed papers via snail mail can be done via online or PDF forms. How very interesting... It seems that CoVid-19 has attacked the bureaucratic system in Slovakia.
 
I have no idea what Quebec is doing.

Sure, the majority of the population is in 3 provinces (British Columbia, Ontario, Quebec). But BC just crossed 1,000 cases, and Ontario has about 1,800. Quebec has just under 4,200!

Seriously, at this point there is a growing likelihood of stopping the strong recommendations of people staying home and activate the Emergency Act. Roll out the military and force people to quarantine unless they meet very high standards (essential services, buying food and medicine). If that happens I am totally blaming them Frenchies.
 
Hm, I've just managed in under 10 minutes to ask for child care benefits for my wife AND to enroll said child in school for the next school year, without having to get up from my computer and even without having to scan anything. How interesting... suddenly a lot of things that absolutely needed sending a lot of signed papers via snail mail can be done via online or PDF forms. How very interesting... It seems that CoVid-19 has attacked the bureaucratic system in Slovakia.

Our government was scared shitless when they saw the potential economic impact and political/stability threat and raced to put in place online simplified procedures for benefits and other stuff.

One more benefit of having moderately competent leaders at the helm.

People are not dying it droves AND there is at least some reassurance you will not starve or be bankrupt at least in the short term.
 
I have no idea what Quebec is doing.

Sure, the majority of the population is in 3 provinces (British Columbia, Ontario, Quebec). But BC just crossed 1,000 cases, and Ontario has about 1,800. Quebec has just under 4,200!

Seriously, at this point there is a growing likelihood of stopping the strong recommendations of people staying home and activate the Emergency Act. Roll out the military and force people to quarantine unless they meet very high standards (essential services, buying food and medicine). If that happens I am totally blaming them Frenchies.
The virus has been deported for not contaminating cells in proper French.
 
Apparently McConnell has said he will block any attempts at further stimulus and get back to ramming as many Trump judge appointments through as possible.
 
Apparently McConnell has said he will block any attempts at further stimulus and get back to ramming as many Trump judge appointments through as possible.

So what I am reading is that: The Corpos have gotten their fat slice of the cake, and the rest of us can get fscked.
I am hoping that enough people realize that voting for resident cheeto for another four years is very, very bad. But guestimating at least 30% of the hardcore Republicans would rather you die than have another Blue in the office.
 
McConnell said he also wanted a few days or weeks to see what state of the economy is. So when Congress meets again on the 20th, McConnel might change his mind. Also that same day Trump tweeted that he wants a 2 trillion infrastructure bill passed and well I think Trump's going to pressure him to make sure it would pass in the Senate.
 
80 new cases and 1 death today Greece.

Trend remains frustratingly steady in relation to the time mass measures are in place.

I see the tragedies in other countries and realize we are very lucky so far but unfortunately many see nothing but what is in front of them. At least the government casts as wide a net of social protection as possible.

Lets hope cases start to decrease soon as Easter is near and draconian measures aside seeing an everyday difference would be a balm and reassuring.
 
So what I am reading is that: The Corpos have gotten their fat slice of the cake, and the rest of us can get fscked.
I am hoping that enough people realize that voting for resident cheeto for another four years is very, very bad. But guestimating at least 30% of the hardcore Republicans would rather you die than have another Blue in the office.

If Sanders were the alternative, you'd have an argument. Right now, the Democrats are seriously considering the Senile old White Dude who has a lot of boundary issues as their canddiate.
 
Seriously considering?

I thought, Covid willing, Biden was a sure thing?

Biden is the sort of candidate who needs a miracle. He represents the old way of politics, something that failed with Hillary Clinton. I said it for years now that if the Democrats want to beat Trump, they should have picked someone new. Sanders was close enough, but Left Populism (for lack of a better term) needs a fresh face.
 
Biden is the sort of candidate who needs a miracle. He represents the old way of politics, something that failed with Hillary Clinton. I said it for years now that if the Democrats want to beat Trump, they should have picked someone new. Sanders was close enough, but Left Populism (for lack of a better term) needs a fresh face.
How is this covid-19 related?
 
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