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How would YOU unf*ck this World ?

Aetherius

Well-known member
First the good news.....

You are still on Earth and it is still 2021, and you are now the proud owner of power and abilities of the following Characters:

1. Haruna from Arpeggio of Blue Steel

2. Alita (2.1) from Battle Angel Alita Last Order

3. Penny Polendina from RWBY

4. Nono from Diebuster

5. Ishtar from Fate/Grand Order

And now for the Bad News....

The Timeline of this World follows the same as ours, till the End of WW2.
In this Timeline, President Truman died on 30th June 1945, due to a tragic accient. His Successor, President Henry Morgenthau Jr., immediately implemented the so-called Morgenthau Plan with dramatic Changes
for the entire World. It is telling that anti-semitism in this Timeline is alive and well into the 2020s, and that Holocaust denial is not political suicide. Especially after the Statue of Liberty Attack in 1980´s, in which internment camps
similar to the ones Japanese-Americans were placed into OTL were started, to mainly curtail the 'bad Jews'.

A little overview of other Nations of this World:

United States

President Taft, fully implements a fiscally conservative roll back of the welfare state, who then successfully dismantled the New Deal. Unfortunately once the Second Depression hits America in the sixties, welfare programs that could have helped the American people are now largely underfunded or privatized- which paramounts to abolishing those programs such as when all the retirement money in Social Security is lost. While during the more or less prosperous fifties there is little controversy, once the economy enters into recession in the sixties, the loss of retirement money from the privatized Social Security hits elders' particularly hard. Also the United States is beset by terrorism (internal and external), economic collapse , political gridlock and instability, rise of the ultra-right. Also the civil rights movement has failed utterly and Jim Crow is alive and well. The civil rights movement gets strangled in its cradle, allowing segregation to persist in the South well beyond its OTL end. Things get worse in the 80s with the Urban Economic Zones, which are basically open-air prison camps for blacks. Ethnic and religious minorities are subject to severe discrimination, political opponents are harassed and jailed for both real and fabricated crimes, and regressive policies on womens' and LGBT rights are allowed to take effect. The United States suffers a Second Depression so devastating that many Americans are migrating to the Soviet Union while Jews, Blacks and Germans are blamed for the crisis.

President Buckler in 1976 assumed pretty well Hitlerian powers over America: interning entire ethnic and racial groups under the pretext of "terrorism", maintaining control over Congress by locking up opposition politicians on trumped-up or outright fabricated charges, limiting the franchise through incredibly restrictive voter ID laws, absorbing most of the private sector into the for-profit government control, simultaneously invading and attacking half a dozen countries with nuclear weapons at enormous loss of life, criminalizing such things as homosexuality, and violating just about every constitutional right in existence on a nationwide scale. President Buckler was seen as the worst President in History, namely because of this nuking of Brazil, China, Spain and Arabia to fight Communist rebels.

Later he was overthrown, and his successors decide to scrap the US Constitution and start over, writing a new US Constitution.

Soviet Union

Largely following the Event in OTL. However, due to the succesful implementations of market-oriented reforms wich saved her economy, resulting in a much, much stronger Soviet Union. In fact, the SU, became so succesful, that it became the new home for many People all around the world.

China

China suffered multiple nuclear strikes during the joint American-Taiwanese invasion of the mainland. The United States deployed nuclear weapons in the battlefield, causing radiation and killing thousands of people, including Mao. The United States are then divided the Nation into a Communist North and a Nationalist South, which is, after yet another nuclear war, forced the Communist into the Soviet Union.

Europe

Europe was thrown under the bus after the war by a isolationist United States. A very watered-down version of the Marshall Plan was implemented, only for it to be cut off by President Taft short time later. This slows down the European recovery to a halt, forcing European nations to pool their resources together to not only rebuilt but also defend themselves from the Soviet Union. With no Germany as it´s economic Engine, things are looking dark.

Germany

The successful implementation of the Morgenthau Plan destroyed Germany and killed approximately two million people and caused a Brain Drain from which Germany never recovered.
The complete deindustrialisation of Germany caused a total societal collapse. The effects of the Morgenthau Plan are so severe that modern-day Germany is a agrarian society with no modernity present.
As part of the Morgenthau Plan, million forced laborers were transported to other countries. Many of these so-called "Volunteers" were pressed into Military Service (their Families are held Hostage). Nations like France and Belgium
used then these "Volunteers", to terrorise the population of their Colonies and to eliminate political Opponents. Many Germans still trying to flee to the Soviet Block, to escape their miserable situation. However, crossing the border is not an easy task, because of the Iron Curtain, built by the Americans and French, to keep the Germans in. It should be noted that cases of cannibalism are not uncommon and many young soldiers who ventured into the so-called No-Go Zones ended up on the dinnerplates of the hungry people.

France

Largely follow the Events in OTL. As one of the Victors of WWII, France managed to keep it´s Empire and Colonies together. However, the situations in the Colonies becoming more and more difficult for the French Goverment.
France is currently tasked in guarding the Iron Curtain to keep the Germans from fleeing to the Soviet Block. The last Commanding Officer of the Occupation Forces in Germany, was killed by German Rebels. His remains were nowhere to be found.
It is rumored that he was eaten.

Israel

Following the Attack on Statue of Liberty, the United States invaded Israel and split it between it surrounding Neighbours.

Other Nations

Brazil, Spain and Saudi Arabia are currently embroiled in a Civil War. These Nations were hit by the United States with Nuclear Weapons as well as Chemical Weapons in order to fight the Communist Rebels.

So, how would you unf*ck this World ??
 
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Aetherius

Well-known member
Some of them is way stronger than the others, and where is UK?

After the end of WWII, the President thought the UK would be a nice addtion to the US.
Of course against the will of the British Population, the same counts for Japan and the Philipines.
They became Colonies of the US.
 

<Reaper>666

Well-known member
First the good news.....

You are still on Earth and it is still 2021, and you are now the proud owner of power and abilities of the following Characters:

1. Haruna from Arpeggio of Blue Steel

2. Alita (2.1) from Battle Angel Alita Last Order

3. Penny Polendina from RWBY

4. Nono from Diebuster

5. Ishtar from Fate/Grand Order

And now for the Bad News....

The Timeline of this World follows the same as ours, till the End of WW2.
In this Timeline, President Truman died on 30th June 1945, due to a tragic accient. His Successor, President Henry Morgenthau Jr., immediately implemented the so-called Morgenthau Plan with dramatic Changes
for the entire World. It is telling that anti-semitism in this Timeline is alive and well into the 2020s, and that Holocaust denial is not political suicide. Especially after the Statue of Liberty Attack in 1980´s, in which internment camps
similar to the ones Japanese-Americans were placed into OTL were started, to mainly curtail the 'bad Jews'.

A little overview of other Nations of this World:

United States

President Taft, fully implements a fiscally conservative roll back of the welfare state, who then successfully dismantled the New Deal. Unfortunately once the Second Depression hits America in the sixties, welfare programs that could have helped the American people are now largely underfunded or privatized- which paramounts to abolishing those programs such as when all the retirement money in Social Security is lost. While during the more or less prosperous fifties there is little controversy, once the economy enters into recession in the sixties, the loss of retirement money from the privatized Social Security hits elders' particularly hard. Also the United States is beset by terrorism (internal and external), economic collapse , political gridlock and instability, rise of the ultra-right. Also the civil rights movement has failed utterly and Jim Crow is alive and well. The civil rights movement gets strangled in its cradle, allowing segregation to persist in the South well beyond its OTL end. Things get worse in the 80s with the Urban Economic Zones, which are basically open-air prison camps for blacks. Ethnic and religious minorities are subject to severe discrimination, political opponents are harassed and jailed for both real and fabricated crimes, and regressive policies on womens' and LGBT rights are allowed to take effect. The United States suffers a Second Depression so devastating that many Americans are migrating to the Soviet Union while Jews, Blacks and Germans are blamed for the crisis.

President Buckler in 1976 assumed pretty well Hitlerian powers over America: interning entire ethnic and racial groups under the pretext of "terrorism", maintaining control over Congress by locking up opposition politicians on trumped-up or outright fabricated charges, limiting the franchise through incredibly restrictive voter ID laws, absorbing most of the private sector into the for-profit government control, simultaneously invading and attacking half a dozen countries with nuclear weapons at enormous loss of life, criminalizing such things as homosexuality, and violating just about every constitutional right in existence on a nationwide scale. President Buckler was seen as the worst President in History, namely because of this nuking of Brazil, China, Spain and Arabia to fight Communist rebels.

Later he was overthrown, and his successors decide to scrap the US Constitution and start over, writing a new US Constitution.

Soviet Union

Largely following the Event in OTL. However, due to the succesful implementations of market-oriented reforms wich saved her economy, resulting in a much, much stronger Soviet Union. In fact, the SU, became so succesful, that it became the new home for many People all around the world.

China

China suffered multiple nuclear strikes during the joint American-Taiwanese invasion of the mainland. The United States deployed nuclear weapons in the battlefield, causing radiation and killing thousands of people, including Mao. The United States are then divided the Nation into a Communist North and a Nationalist South, which is, after yet another nuclear war, forced the Communist into the Soviet Union.

Europe

Europe was thrown under the bus after the war by a isolationist United States. A very watered-down version of the Marshall Plan was implemented, only for it to be cut off by President Taft short time later. This slows down the European recovery to a halt, forcing European nations to pool their resources together to not only rebuilt but also defend themselves from the Soviet Union. With no Germany as it´s economic Engine, things are looking dark.

Germany

The successful implementation of the Morgenthau Plan destroyed Germany and killed approximately two million people and caused a Brain Drain from which Germany never recovered.
The complete deindustrialisation of Germany caused a total societal collapse. The effects of the Morgenthau Plan are so severe that modern-day Germany is a agrarian society with no modernity present.
As part of the Morgenthau Plan, million forced laborers were transported to other countries. Many of these so-called "Volunteers" were pressed into Military Service (their Families are held Hostage). Nations like France and Belgium
used then these "Volunteers", to terrorise the population of their Colonies and to eliminate political Opponents. Many Germans still trying to flee to the Soviet Block, to escape their miserable situation. However, crossing the border is not an easy task, because of the Iron Curtain, built by the Americans and French, to keep the Germans in. It should be noted that cases of cannibalism are not uncommon and many young soldiers who ventured into the so-called No-Go Zones ended up on the dinnerplates of the hungry people.

France

Largely follow the Events in OTL. As one of the Victors of WWII, France managed to keep it´s Empire and Colonies together. However, the situations in the Colonies becoming more and more difficult for the French Goverment.
France is currently tasked in guarding the Iron Curtain to keep the Germans from fleeing to the Soviet Block. The last Commanding Officer of the Occupation Forces in Germany, was killed by German Rebels. His remains were nowhere to be found.
It is rumored that he was eaten.

Israel

Following the Attack on Statue of Liberty, the United States invaded Israel and split it between it surrounding Neighbours.

Other Nations

Brazil, Spain and Saudi Arabia are currently embroiled in a Civil War. These Nations were hit by the United States with Nuclear Weapons as well as Chemical Weapons in order to fight the Communist Rebels.

So, how would you unf*ck this World ??

Unfuck? Why? Warsaw Pact is the new, NATO, People's Democracies are in place or better the OTL USA and Western Europe is.
 

Aetherius

Well-known member
Warsaw Pact is the new, NATO, People's Democracies are in place or better the OTL USA and Western Europe is.

That sums it up pretty much...
Talk about switched roles.

Still, there are a lot of places (if not the whole planet) that are f*ed up.
So, how do you gonna unf*ck it ??

Just neutralize everyone's military....

And how you gonna achiev this ??
 
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Aetherius

Well-known member
Just destroy every military installations in the world, Nono certainly has the ability to do that.

The Legion could easily destroy every ship, tank, bomber, nuke and fighter.
And then what ? The ability to rebuild their military capability is still there.

You would have to take away their capability to rebuild, meaning you would have to take away
their industrial capability. Their COMPLETE industrial capability. Thus, you would have to reduce them
to the level of germany of this world.

Also, i won´t start here what to do with all the soldiers....
 
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Aetherius

Well-known member
If there is no military there will be rebellion and in rebellion there will be change.

That is a............very interesting approach in how to solve this little problem.
Solving the problem, by creating even more problems.
...
...
...
Very.............creative.
 

Aetherius

Well-known member
Define "unfuck".
SB-lite?

Well, as you can see from the OP, in this world many things went wrong here. resulting in a pretty crappy world....
The Roles in this World are reversed. Instead of the US as the destination for many all around the world, the Soviet Union became it, for example.
The UK and Japan got swallowed by the US, as well as the Philipines.

How do you do it, is gonna completely up to you.
 

<Reaper>666

Well-known member
Well, as you can see from the OP, in this world many things went wrong here. resulting in a pretty crappy world....
The Roles in this World are reversed. Instead of the US as the destination for many all around the world, the Soviet Union became it, for example.
The UK and Japan got swallowed by the US, as well as the Philipines.

How do you do it, is gonna completely up to you.

Fact that US is not a top dog but a dissuluting carcass, China is basically no more, just like Germany, with Warsaw Pact being the stable and prosperous block is not a tragedy. Even a net gain, becouse now undisturbed by anyone, guided by top down management and supplied by plenty of resources, after creation of Global AntiAccess/AreaDenial grid, finnaly humankind will make home in the stars, securing it's peace and prosperity, now and always.

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Rufus Shinra

Well-known member
Fact that US is not a top dog but a dissuluting carcass, China is basically no more, just like Germany, with Warsaw Pact being the stable and prosperous block is not a tragedy. Even a net gain, becouse now undisturbed by anyone, guided by top down management and supplied by plenty of resources, after creation of Global AntiAccess/AreaDenial grid, finnaly humankind will make home in the stars, securing it's peace and prosperity, now and always.

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Or, more likely, USSR is just as much a bully as OTL US.
 

Rubick

Well-known member
Or, more likely, USSR is just as much a bully as OTL US.


There is no likely there. It would be pushing it's weight in it's favor. And it's "ideals". The question should be what form of socialism would they be pushing ? And would it be overall beneficial to mankind and by how much ?
 

<Reaper>666

Well-known member
There is no likely there. It would be pushing it's weight in it's favor. And it's "ideals". The question should be what form of socialism would they be pushing ? And would it be overall beneficial to mankind and by how much ?

Of course it would be beneficial to humanity. As a global superpower Warsaw Pact would have monopoly on definig who the humanity is. Given how US mass media and popular culture notoriously places equality sign between world, humanity and civilisation solely to America, now only real civilisation and humanity would be USSR and Warsaw Pact's co. Also given the created by OP world, it is not so far from the truth, given that rest of the world is basically "wild lands", failed states and in case of USA oversized Libya on the even on open civil war, which possibly can even go nuclear.
 

Rufus Shinra

Well-known member
Of course it would be beneficial to humanity. As a global superpower Warsaw Pact would have monopoly on definig who the humanity is. Given how US mass media and popular culture notoriously places equality sign between world, humanity and civilisation solely to America, now only real civilisation and humanity would be USSR and Warsaw Pact's co. Also given the created by OP world, it is not so far from the truth, given that rest of the world is basically "wild lands", failed states and in case of USA oversized Libya on the even on open civil war, which possibly can even go nuclear.
The first sentence of your post is amusingly disconnected from the rest of it.
 

<Reaper>666

Well-known member
The first sentence of your post is amusingly disconnected from the rest of it.

Of course it is tightly connected. When you define your side as humanity, every action undertaken and granting benefits to your own side is a benefit of humanity. It is all matter of perception and definition. OP have made a world where the real leading and functional superpower is the USSR and Warsaw Pact is beasically leading political-military alliance. Given the state of the rest of the world, they do not have any meaningful capacity to influence perception nor definition or reality by society at large.
Given that what is called West here is fascist antithseis of what we have in real life, especially OP's version of USA, the choice is obvious, unless we consider the being good version of humanity the OP's America wants to create, which more or less is extension of Hitler's ideals.

Given also that apparently USSR and Warsaw Pact are prosperous and stable countries, given the global security enviroment, I do wonder if they have working version of Taran there.
 

Aetherius

Well-known member
Of course it is tightly connected. When you define your side as humanity, every action undertaken and granting benefits to your own side is a benefit of humanity. It is all matter of perception and definition. OP have made a world where the real leading and functional superpower is the USSR and Warsaw Pact is beasically leading political-military alliance. Given the state of the rest of the world, they do not have any meaningful capacity to influence perception nor definition or reality by society at large.
Given that what is called West here is fascist antithseis of what we have in real life, especially OP's version of USA, the choice is obvious, unless we consider the being good version of humanity the OP's America wants to create, which more or less is extension of Hitler's ideals.

Given also that apparently USSR and Warsaw Pact are prosperous and stable countries, given the global security enviroment, I do wonder if they have working version of Taran there.

Taran ??
That doesn´t ring a bell...
Care to explain ?
 

<Reaper>666

Well-known member
Taran ??
That doesn´t ring a bell...
Care to explain ?

Integrated ocean-land-space defense and offensive complex


Originally Taran was one of the many perspective ABM systems being developed and tested in the Soviet Union. More or less a the same time Chelomey have devised what you are seeing above.
It is basically multilayered integrated battle management system runnig host of multidomaing defensive and offencive measures. It is de facto a continental sized A2/AD system.
It is much more holistic version of the SDI coupled with offensive measures like cruise missiles, long range rocket torpedos and ballisic missiles and also composite situation awerness through integration of data from multitude of different sensors.
More or less it is net-centric automatised warfare half a century before it become a thing.
 
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