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Blade4

Apathetic Marine
Yea I know. I will see the doctor tommorow and will discuss options
Do what you must now dude. Your knees start fucking up you are in deep shit. My mom is waiting for double knee replacement right now because she refused to take care of herself and is functionally a invalid unable to walk far without a knee cap slipping on her.
 

StolenMadWolf

Well-known member
Author
My cold's now gone. So I don't need to worry about being ill from that for a while. Still got to be careful with COVID though even with the full vaccine course.

In other news, just finished my latest art piece which might could potentially double up as cover art for the short story/novella idea (or at the very least serve as the foundation of one). Speaking of which, I've started writing that. Slowly, because of the start, but I am taking baby steps with that first draft. Meanwhile, I'm also trying to work out whetever or not traditional publishing is really the best option for me. The main reason I have been looking at it is because it would help get me to a wider audience and my lack of knowledge of marketing.

On the flip side, self-publishing would be faster and could help build up some attention, as well as getting a focused audience. But again, I don't know if I would even be capable of marketing it properly as I have little idea how marketing actually works.

Just gotta keep going I suppose. My art might be slowly getting attention since someone has inquired about requests so... that is something else to work out.

Just need to get to work with that website of mine. I now have the theme/program set up, it's just a matter of working out the software and how it works.
 

Blade4

Apathetic Marine

Perhaps this would be helpful? I have heard that amazon barely makes any money for you from production costs even for actually successful authors. ShaperV, on qq now mostly i think but was SB, from what I understand has a number of books published including 2 series and told me once he might make a dollar or so off a paperback book bought of amazon.
 

StolenMadWolf

Well-known member
Author

Perhaps this would be helpful? I have heard that amazon barely makes any money for you from production costs even for actually successful authors. ShaperV, on qq now mostly i think but was SB, from what I understand has a number of books published including 2 series and told me once he might make a dollar or so off a paperback book bought of amazon.
I've been reading through that, and whilst the potential money is nice, I still lack real marketing experience nevermind the fact I'm not sure going for Amazon alone would allow me to reach a wider potential audience.

That, and I would have to handle the costs of editing. For the short story, The Ship of Aurora that isn't so bad, but for Nyulfur? I'm going to be coughing up thousands just for proofreading alone.
 

StolenMadWolf

Well-known member
Author
Editors normally look over stuff that is sent through the traditional way before it's properly published. There is nothing stopping authors from self publishing without going through an editor, but it does come with it's risks.

I would rather send something through an editor just to play it safe and make sure either story is the absolute best they can be before publishing.
 

<Reaper>666

Well-known member
Thousands? Do you have to run it by some editor just to get it seen or out to the public?
If you want to publish anything by yourself better find sponsor, becouse costs are insane, everywhere. You can also just go to your collage, university or academy, but then it is for free, ie. you do not get money, but, you know fame is priceless.
 

StolenMadWolf

Well-known member
Author
Speaking of costs. I'm actually seriously considering doing some art commissions myself. But I have no idea how to go ahead with that.

I'm just curious, how much should I charge for some of the art I do? If it's only with £5 for me, then be frank with me.

 

Blade4

Apathetic Marine
If you want to publish anything by yourself better find sponsor, becouse costs are insane, everywhere. You can also just go to your collage, university or academy, but then it is for free, ie. you do not get money, but, you know fame is priceless.
Eh in my limited experience free exposure just means you get used for a pile of work and if very very lucky someone else might hire or look at you.
I'm just curious, how much should I charge for some of the art I do? If it's only with £5 for me, then be frank with me.
Try 15 as base price and haggle depending on size and detail? 5 is the lowest you should even think of going because that makes you look desperate. Well at least to me.
 

<Reaper>666

Well-known member
Eh in my limited experience free exposure just means you get used for a pile of work and if very very lucky someone else might hire or look at you.
Very true, but it also helps you judge the potential market and presence. Other side is an internet. basically you must flood market with your pieces and analyse feedback. Then you can create a product that have any chances to actually sell and be profiteable.
Writing and art creation is the same job as working and organising production in a factory. When you establish a brand you can make some art ie. pieces you create entirely without looking back at the public feedback. Only then you can have any remote chances that your art will bring you money.
 

Kamakura bakufu

Active member
In a few weeks is goes from so hot that I am unable to sleep without AC and then so cold that I cannot go outside in normal clothes and my city is not even that far north of the equator.
 

StolenMadWolf

Well-known member
Author
Try 15 as base price and haggle depending on size and detail? 5 is the lowest you should even think of going because that makes you look desperate. Well at least to me.
$15 could be a starting point, I'm just currently getting some ideas together.

Very true, but it also helps you judge the potential market and presence. Other side is an internet. basically you must flood market with your pieces and analyse feedback. Then you can create a product that have any chances to actually sell and be profiteable.
Writing and art creation is the same job as working and organising production in a factory. When you establish a brand you can make some art ie. pieces you create entirely without looking back at the public feedback. Only then you can have any remote chances that your art will bring you money.
Yeah, this. I noticed that I often got a crapton more views and favourites when I hold back and post stuff out all in one go rather than putting stuff up one at a time.

Or even better, try and stagger and release things in short bursts to keep the attention up. Of course, keeping up that kind of pace is a challenge.
 
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