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International Monkeypox outbreak in Europe/US

PainRack

MechSoldoer

So.... There was a case of monkeypox in a UK traveller. Contact and case tracing is being done but

It's turning out to be a rapidly expanding cluster, hitting Portugal, Spain and a recent confirmed case in USA.

And despite Covid contact tracing measures, we haven't been able to utilize what we learned then to isolate and shut it down..
But in England, 7 of the 8 cases don't involve recent travel to Africa, suggesting the patients involved in those cases caught the virus in England. On top of that, those individuals haven't had contact with the one patient known to have traveled to Nigeria, the UKHSA reported Tuesday. Together, this data suggests the virus is spreading in the community undetected.
So... Heads up, if you experience cold symptoms then notice blisters, please isolate and seek medical attention.
 
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Lerticus

Senile Old Coot
☭ Communism ☭
This is already a shitshow.

Covid reporting is down, and we are in the "pretend that pandemic thing is over" stage. So the media needs something to grab a hold of and strangle until there is no sensationalism left.

Enter monkeypox. "Did you hear? *hushed tones* it starts from people having sex with monkeys. It also is spreading among gay men."

Yup. Some people just had to bring in the HIV/AIDS playbook to demonize those perfidious homosexuals again. Which we know means that some people will try to cover up their infection because they don't want others to think they have caught The Gay, increasing spread.

Stupid people spreading maladies while pretending they are victims is back, baby! News outlets must be tripping all over themselves for the opportunity to milk this new sensation.
 

PainRack

MechSoldoer
This is already a shitshow.

Covid reporting is down, and we are in the "pretend that pandemic thing is over" stage. So the media needs something to grab a hold of and strangle until there is no sensationalism left.

Enter monkeypox. "Did you hear? *hushed tones* it starts from people having sex with monkeys. It also is spreading among gay men."

Yup. Some people just had to bring in the HIV/AIDS playbook to demonize those perfidious homosexuals again. Which we know means that some people will try to cover up their infection because they don't want others to think they have caught The Gay, increasing spread.

Stupid people spreading maladies while pretending they are victims is back, baby! News outlets must be tripping all over themselves for the opportunity to milk this new sensation.
What's frightening is the 7 cases not having known contact with patient zero.
This suggests community spread and monkeypox is supposed to be spread via close contact only.

So scary thing might be we getting another disease which increased it's infectivity. But shrugs, needs more data to even tell so it's the sit back and let the experts settle this.

Of course, sex with gay men IS a possible vector spread but that just means we go back to HIV level of intervention and importance of non stigmatisation


Worse comes to worse, say hello to smallpox vaccine. Again. Anyone knows whether the two current vaccines need that old bifurcated big ass needle ?
 

Lerticus

Senile Old Coot
☭ Communism ☭
Worse comes to worse, say hello to smallpox vaccine. Again. Anyone knows whether the two current vaccines need that old bifurcated big ass needle ?
If you don't have a nasty permanent divot in your arm is it even worth getting a smallpox vaccine?

Of course, sex with gay men IS a possible vector spread but that just means we go back to HIV level of intervention and importance of non stigmatisation
The world is unfortunately at the current stage of "ye old hate crimes were cooleth". It starts in the US with their continual war on... pretty much anything that is not a special blend of Christofascism, bit it has emboldened a lot of people globally to take up arms.

The kind of people who are not exactly swayed by factual education. Actually, the kind of folks who actively fight against facts.

[Insert Diety Here] help us if some of those fuckheads get sick, because they will find a way to make this worse than we can possibly imagine.
 

Eliar

Well-known member
As long as people keep eating and fucking? everything disgusting and outlandish then odds are new diseases will pop up.

If we MUST fuck and eat animals lets stick to sheep and goats :p

Traditional bestiality best bestiality!
 

PainRack

MechSoldoer
As long as people keep eating and fucking? everything disgusting and outlandish then odds are new diseases will pop up.

If we MUST fuck and eat animals lets stick to sheep and goats :p

Traditional bestiality best bestiality!
Just a reminder that eating infected meat is not the only source.

Feces from infected rodents or crusts from said leisons are another possible vector although it seems that this boils down to we not sure.

Respiratory transmission in droplet in humans to humans is also there.
 

PainRack

MechSoldoer
While we wait for the experts to figure out how the clusters are spreading the way they did and hope their preliminary conclusion that this will not be a pandemic is true, let's bring up the idiot tree argument.

No, Astrazeneca adenovirus/chimp virus is not linked to monkeypox.

No. The vaccines did not damage your immune system and thus you got monkeypox.

No. Covid did not damage your immune system and thus you got monkeypox.

No China, the US did not release monkeypox.

No Qanon, the Deep State did not release monkeypox.

No Brownstone Institute, a tabletop exercise does not mean the Deep State released monkeypox, this is not planned
 

Rufus Shinra

Well-known member
While we wait for the experts to figure out how the clusters are spreading the way they did and hope their preliminary conclusion that this will not be a pandemic is true, let's bring up the idiot tree argument.

No, Astrazeneca adenovirus/chimp virus is not linked to monkeypox.

No. The vaccines did not damage your immune system and thus you got monkeypox.

No. Covid did not damage your immune system and thus you got monkeypox.

No China, the US did not release monkeypox.

No Qanon, the Deep State did not release monkeypox.

No Brownstone Institute, a tabletop exercise does not mean the Deep State released monkeypox, this is not planned
You sound like you're being paid by Them to try and hide the truth!
 

PainRack

MechSoldoer
CNA: More than 1000 monkeypox cases reported to WHO.

WHO raising the concern that monkeypox is now community transmitted in several countries and thus may become endemic outside of Africa
 

PainRack

MechSoldoer

You see some of these states declaring states of emergency, they're going to abuse those emergency powers to restrict your freedom. I guarantee you that's what will happen. We saw it so much with COVID," DeSantis said during a press event in Brevard County.
A pox on you and your House Desantis.


Also for fun times, look at How Fox news sanitised them.


I am so sick of politicians — and we saw this with COVID — trying to sow fear into the population," he said. "We had people calling, mothers worried about whether their kids could catch it at school."

"We are not doing fear," DeSantis added. "And, we are not going to go out and try to rile people up and try to act like people can't live their lives as they've been normally doing because of something
A pox on both your houses.
 

PainRack

MechSoldoer




COVID-19 pandemic witnessed vaccine nationalism, contradictory official guidance and marginalized groups forced to advocate for themselves; while the early days of the HIV crisis were marred by virulent homophobia, stigmatization, and unequal access to treatments.

Now, with 16,500 cases of monkeypox reported in Europe – largely among men who have sex with men – history is repeating itself. Some communities are taking matters into their own hands, designing their own health information campaigns and even traveling across borders in search of vaccines

It's uniquely frustrating. Not only did Covid show us we had these problems, so, we shouldn't be repeating errors made before, thanks to the War on Terror, the US HAS prepared for a smallpox scenario which can be translated to apply to monkeypox.


If Obama vision had been fulfilled, say in 2016 when Clinton took over and Dems won Congress, we might NOT be seeing this scenario now. Because a lot of the problems identified by John Oliver was also problems identified by Obama administration.

AND conceded to the Republicans by Obama, as Obama raided public health funds to meet Zika and etc while Republicans refused to do anything and etcetcetc. Vaccine doses expired, strategic stockpile not replenished because DEFICIT MATTER SEQUESTRATION.

It's just..... Remember. Obama was the person who actually topped up the strategic stockpile so you could fight anthrax. You CAN blame Obama for not going FAR enough but gods.....
 
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