Riiiiight. So, once again, the plan was superbly organized by the cunning anglo services but the execution was totally incompetent
Uhm, you having a problem with reading comprehension today? I explicitly wrote that I think in Kazakhstan it was an inside job. Was there some superb MI6 plan that I described? I don't think so. So what are you actually talking about?
I don't think there are some superb plans afoot, at least not from the West's side. It's just decades of money being invested into soft power, pro-western media, russophobia, political influence, all done quite openly. Then when a chance comes to change the political leadership, it is attempted. It succeeded in Ukraine, failed in Belarus and Kazakhstan. And actually Ukraine is a horribly, horribly bungled job. Coutry in ruin, civil war for 7 long years, economy down the drain, abuse of power comparable to a South American dictatorship, a society divided more than in the US... it should have been turned into a shining example of a post-soviet country going European, instead it is now a horrible warning and IMO a significant part of why the Belarus and Kazakhstan coup attempts failed.
Nobody wants to be a second Ukraine.
especially in Belarus where the intelligence agencies were so stupid they didn't realize the sanctions they set up were preventing their complex conspiracy from succeeding.
In Belarus the preparation was different, it coincided with Luki's magical 80% win in the presidential election, which resulted in protests organized by the opposition and very ostentatively helped from the outside. NEXTA coordinated the whole show, openly bragging in interviews about being paid and fed information by Polish intelligence. It did not succeed because Lukashenko didn't give up like Yanukovich, and accepted help from the Russians early on, just like Tokayev in Kazakhstan. Yanukovich in Ukraine didn't do so, instead he was all the time on the phone with Biden and let his country being thrown into chaos just to save his wealth.
EDIT: to be honest, I really understand why the Baltic countries and some others want to ensure NATO stays inside their borders, 'cause when we see the mess happening in the countries within Russia's sphere of influence...
Russia has no sphere of influence. It has just started to create one, with Belarus' economic integration. That is precisely the reason for all the chaos, the post-soviet countries who try to play both sides usually end up couped and in total chaos. The Central Asian countries are a completely different animal culturally, you cannot compare them to European countries.
Well, I'm reacting to Wakko's highly elaborate theory-crafting here, saying that it was being done in Kazakhstan as well (but failed because of yet another move in the shadows).
That is not at all what I wrote. Let's see: IMO
it was an inside job and Nazarbayev's connection to the UK played only the role of an activator ahead of the coming Geneva negotiations. But
the armed groups were created, trained and armed domestically, by Nazarbayev's people in internal security.
I still think that there was a connection to a western intelligence service, most likely the MI6, simply because the timing is soooo convenient, and because the British jumped on Nazarbayev's property in the UK as soon as he expressed his support for Tokayev. To start screaming about human rights abuses by Tokayev and then do something that actually strengthens his position because it weakens Nazarbayev, now that is pretty obviously just a move against Nazarbayev specifically, and that has to have a reason.
Though, of course, if a diplomat bringing food to protesters is the sign of a conspiracy to overthrow the current government, that government must have been pretty weak from the start.
It's a foreign power interfering in a country's democratic process, something inherently undemocratic and hypocritical. Foreign diplomats shouldn't come anywhere near the democratic processes in the country where they are stationed, simply because they're not part of the demos.