I'm afraid we do: Рябков: США и НАТО не готовы идти навстречу России по гарантиям безопасности - Политика - ТАССSo do we have any news from THAT talks?
США и их союзники по Североатлантическому альянсу ни под каким видом не готовы идти навстречу ключевым требованиям РФ по гарантиям безопасности. Об этом заявил в четверг замглавы МИД РФ Сергей Рябков в интервью RTVI.
The US and their allies in NATO aren't at all ready to meet the crucial Russian requirements on security guarantees, said Russian Deputy MFA Sergey Ryabkov in an interview for RTVI.
They'll never admit it, but the West and big powers in general have more to gain from a divided/conflicted Korean peninsula than the inverse (not that I'm against breaking up big mega-corporations, but I doubt that was their altruistic motive) So, I think it more had to do with this:That's interesting. I remember one of the Daewoo shipyards being in deep shits hence the need for a merger.
I didn't know the EU even had a say in it though. Both are largely Korean owned shipyards and with little interests abroad.
I meant ongoing of course.Which one? Bukharest summit or ongoing?
So? C'est la guerre?Absolutely nobody doubted that, especially not the Russians.
I hope not. Nobody knows what will follow. We know thatSo? C'est la guerre?
Please answer these:[...]So? C'est la guerre?
I agree with you, but point 2 is a tricky one when one party refuses to understand what the other party sees as benefits, and why it is so.2. Cost vs. benefits
Refuses to understand?I agree with you, but point 2 is a tricky one when one party refuses to understand what the other party sees as benefits, and why it is so.
That's your Worst-Case Scenario?I have one more question. Let's imagine the worst-case scenario goes down, Russia enters Ukraine like a sailor fresh from 6 months at sea, the US and the EU put all kinds of sanctions on it. And then what? I don't think that Russia will suddenly calm down, they are sure to keep doing all kinds of mischief. But how would we respond? What is the response after the 'sanctions from hell' are out and about? We don't want - and really cannot - escalate to a hot conflict with Russia, ritual suicide still isn't a firm part of our ideology.
You know, I've seen Western political analysts who perfectly understand Russian misgivings regarding current security configuration of Europe. The usual reply is "but you misunderstand us, NATO is not your enemy, we don't want to do anything to you." That a pragmatic political-military calculation takes into account what is known - capabilities, and not what is just stated - intentions, is then just summarily ignored.Refuses to understand?
Not "doesn't understand", nor "pretends not to understand"... but are actually internally blocking themselves from understanding?
Just as Kofman, I also don't believe into accidental war between two such great powers as the US and Russia. There would have to be a decision in Washington to go to war, and for what? As Rufus observed recently, not even the EU has anything to win by defending Ukraine, let alone the remote United States, which don't even get the cheap labor force out of it. For the US, Ukraine is simply a tool of deterrence against Russia. Once that tool is gone, what is there to fight for? The pretty fireworks a 1 MT warhead of the R-36 can make? The cost-benefit analysis here is very clear.That's your Worst-Case Scenario?
The Russians re-assert military control over a region they've regarded for centuries as part of their empire, NATO backs down, and the world goes on?
As opposed to, say, the clowns in Washington DC deciding to go full retard and do Crimean War II, Thermonuclear Bugaloo?
I absolutely agree, that is the problem with all sanctions. The current situation around Ukraine is perfect illustration of that. If the US and EU weren't 'sanctioned out' in the areas where they could hurt Russia without taking a lot of pain themselves, they could react much, much better right now. But they did make their move, Russia adapted, now those options are lost.The main problem with the "sanctions from hell" approach is that the more they resort of that sort of thing, the less effective it becomes, as they are incentivizing other countries to not be economically dependent on trade with the West.
For Russia the total, best and IMO currently sought victory is to change the internal Ukrainian policy vis-a-vis NATO membership. NATO publicly and officially promising that it will not admit Ukraine would absolutely do it. NATO being shown ineffective, over a long time period, in deterring Russia, could do it - but it will take years.Of course here NATO loses face, and some of those East European countries start to reconsider whether being part of that alliance would be worthwhile.
Will joining NATO protect them from The Bear, or just provoke the bear into calling America's bluff?
UPDATEFLASH FLASH FLASH
Poland's Defense Ministry says that a massive leak from a military equipment database includes only publicly available information and is not harmfulabcnews.go.com
Onet podał, że do sieci wyciekła baza zasobów polskiego wojska. Powołując się na informatora, specjalistę od cyberbezpieczeństwa, informuje, że bazę ściągali już użytkownicy z kilkunastu krajów, w tym z Rosji i Chin. Ministerstwo Obrony Narodowej w oświadczeniu poinformowało, że "sprawa jest...tvn24.pl
Baza zasobów polskiego wojska — od śrubek i zeszytów po pociski przeciwpancerne oraz myśliwce F-16 — wyciekła do sieci. Niektóre informacje są niezwykle cenne dla obcych wywiadów. Według naszego informatora, specjalisty od cyberbezpieczeństwa, bazę ściągali już użytkownicy z kilkunastu krajów, w...wiadomosci.onet.pl
We have official response from Polish MoD:
"[...]publication of the data does not pose a threat to state security or the functioning of the Polish Armed Forces. "I reassure you, no secret information has leaked out, and Poland is safe. I recommend to the politicians of the total opposition sobering up and a glass of cold water,"[...]"
1.7 milion posiotions documenting whole personel and materiel state of the Polish Armed Forces, what we lack, what we have, what is ready to use, what not etc. etc. and that rectangular concreate head tells it does not threat state security?
First Macierewicz the Destroyer now Błaszczak Idiot II?