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The Ever Increasing And Well Deserved Social Isolation of Right Wingers

Vyor said:
What isn't allowed to be said in the USA?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exceptions

Liberal governments by their nature attempted to form a balance, restricting individuals just enough to ensure maximum collective freedom. Speech can infringe on others freedom, and thus liberalism restricts certain forms of speech (Even if it is just by defining certain forms of speech outside the confines of "Free Speech")
 
TankTreads said:
Telling your date that you like Rush Limbaugh is pretty cringeworthy, coming from anyone. It's pretty much the same thing as saying "I'm a caveman and I want you barefoot and pregnant 24/7/365." No class at all.
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Well to be fair telling your date your politics on the first or second date is a bit uncouth, third date is about the time, maybe fourth if your more formal.
 
If I was dating a girl and she told me she liked Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter, I would have been wary even when I was a Republican. It betrays a certain joy in attacking people and declaring them lesser. To be honest I kinda miss the days when we had guys like Ben Stein writing in his book "Liberals aren't anti-American, they're not enemies or bad people. They just people with different ideas on how to make a different country. I don't think they're evil, just wrong." Course couple years later he went nuts and started jabbering about big science.

Frankly I don't blame a socialist or so on for not wanting to date a Rush or Ann fan. You just told that you think they're horrible, lazy good for nothings and you enjoy their pain. Why would they date you? Why would want to be around you? You might be trying to deny but let's be blunt, you wouldn't listen to them if you didn't agree with a lot of what they were saying. They're just not that entertaining unless you agree with their premise. This is like being shocked that Jewish girls won't date nazis.

My response to this is... Why is anyone surprised? There are certain positions you that tell the other person that you want them to fail and be miserable. When you wave a "Stick to X" flag, don't be shocked that X wants nothing to do with you socially. Your politics have consequences, suck it up lumpy.
 
forum viking said:
If I was dating a girl and she told me she liked Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter, I would have been wary even when I was a Republican. It betrays a certain joy in attacking people and declaring them lesser. To be honest I kinda miss the days when we had guys like Ben Stein writing in his book "Liberals aren't anti-American, they're not enemies or bad people. They just people with different ideas on how to make a different country. I don't think they're evil, just wrong." Course couple years later he went nuts and started jabbering about big science.

Frankly I don't blame a socialist or so on for not wanting to date a Rush or Ann fan. You just told that you think they're horrible, lazy good for nothings and you enjoy their pain. Why would they date you? Why would want to be around you? You might be trying to deny but let's be blunt, you wouldn't listen to them if you didn't agree with a lot of what they were saying. They're just not that entertaining unless you agree with their premise. This is like being shocked that Jewish girls won't date nazis.

My response to this is... Why is anyone surprised? There are certain positions you that tell the other person that you want them to fail and be miserable. When you wave a "Stick to X" flag, don't be shocked that X wants nothing to do with you socially. Your politics have consequences, suck it up lumpy.
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While this is accurate, it does still ignore the things put forward in the OP...
 
Why should anyone be opposed to the socio-economic isolation of the far-right? Isn't that what they want? Obviously having them integrate into society and politics ends up with things like Nazi Germany and Francoist Spain...

Not to mention concentration camps, genocide, and a litany of other abhorrent things being done to the non-far-right.
 
IndyFront said:
Why should anyone be opposed to the socio-economic isolation of the far-right? Isn't that what they want? Obviously having them integrate into society and politics ends up with things like Nazi Germany and Francoist Spain...

Not to mention concentration camps, genocide, and a litany of other abhorrent things being done to the non-far-right.
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It doesn't say "far right" it says "right"
 
In New Zealand, a country made up of two main islands in the southern Pacific Ocean with a population of about 4.5 million, the center-right National Party has led the government for eight years. John Key, whom pundits have called the "world's most successful conservative," served as prime minister from 2008 until he voluntarily stepped down in 2016. While he was in office, conservatives in New Zealand pushed to limit the size of government, cut taxes, privatize some state-owned enterprises, and put a cap on the number of government officials on staff in Wellington, the nation's capital. But that's where similarities between American and New Zealand–style conservatism ends.

Key also supported a marriage equality bill in 2013, saying that he couldn't see how same-sex weddings would affect his own marriage. Under Key, New Zealand had one of the world's highest rates of renewable energy use, and the National Party has launched a campaign to cut greenhouse emissions in New Zealand by 50 percent over the next half-century. Key even supported major government funding for a national bicycling path. The money the government received from selling off state-owned energy companies went to building new schools and supporting more than 200 new classrooms — at a time when Donald Trump and American conservatives routinely deny the existence of man-made global warming and want to cut education funding.

Global conservatism doesn't just look like this in New Zealand. In Sweden, the largest right-wing party — and the one that's the closest analogue to American conservatism — is called the Moderate Party. (From 1952 to 1969, it was called the Rightist Party, but it changed its name to seem less extreme.) The party supports marriage equality, wants to spend more on the welfare state, and believes that the wage gap between Swedish men and women is a major problem, saying on its official website that "wage differentials, the glass ceiling, and labor market segregation hold back talented people who have more to give in our society."

In the United Kingdom, even the right-wing U.K. Independence Party (UKIP), the leading campaigners behind the U.K.'s exit from the European Union, firmly supports the National Health Service and universal health care. French conservative writer and fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry told MTV News, "It's true that, in general, the limited government tradition is stronger in the United States than elsewhere. It's not just the conservative movement. The U.S. left is still 'to the right' of the left in many other countries."
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http://www.mtv.com/news/2970301/american-conservatives-different-rest-of-world/
 
Vyor said:
It doesn't say "far right" it says "right"
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Well, of course the moderate-left should be tolerant of the moderate-right. But the far-right should absolutely be as scrutinized as much as the far-left and the radical-centre. They are all extremists in my eyes regardless of what side of the political compass they fall on. The same goes for radical anarchists and totalitarianism. I myself lean libertarian and lean left, but that doesn't mean I abhor anyone who isn't on the left and isn't a libertarian (so long as they present cogent arguments for why they lean authoritarian or lean right, even if I disagree with them).
 
IndyFront said:
Why should anyone be opposed to the socio-economic isolation of the far-right? Isn't that what they want? Obviously having them integrate into society and politics ends up with things like Nazi Germany and Francoist Spain...

Not to mention concentration camps, genocide, and a litany of other abhorrent things being done to the non-far-right.
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Going by recent elections, You can shame voters all you want, but that does not ever translate into votes. After all, look at how the British public reacted on 8th May 2015 when "nobody likes a tory!" didn't lead to a Labour victory.
 
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