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The Future of Europe: How can France save the Eu

Of course, everything they do is in support of their protestant fundamentals which are base for shaping their geostartegy plus of course, their own interests. Trump is an abberation in all these only in case of his cultivated public image of quintessential internet troll. On one hand no one can deny it was an efficient way. The same goes for their congress. As fallacial they may look like, some literal morons aside, most of that is a PR game mixed with radical chest thumping. It is vulgar, brash, anti-itelligent and aggressive, actually looking more like something from Spain, Weimar Republic or Italy, but it is thought out long term policy aimed on destruction of internall dissent to solidification of the rule. It is the same model you have now in Poland actually. Difference is only in fact that Trump was ousted after one term, in Poland not.
In US case it is a trend that actually is spinning more and more since 1980 and Reagan. Not that previously they were better, but this is the most recent and most important.
Also their internal documents and specialist revievs usually are meritoric and have zero religious or ideological context (aside ane sentence preamble about defence of democracy/way of life/position in world affairs, but frankly everyone put the same - Westerners usually use morals, Easterers peace and security/enviroment for growth), but these are executive documents for approved policies which in turn are based on cultural morals and norms which are cognitive lenses for perception of reality.
I believe your analysis is deeply flawed because you are projecting the Polish political situation on the US when they have nothing in common anymore: this isn't PR anymore, hasn't been for a decade or so. The thing is, the Washington caste has been brought into the absolute, undisputable certainty that reality doesn't apply to them anymore, that they shape History through their will and that the rest of us will just study what they did. This isn't comparable to Poland, UK, France or whatever, because they have the combination of imperial hubris and a sanctuary History that doesn't rear its head with harsh lessons. Sorry to hammer this, but you cannot project what you are experiencing in Poland to the United States of America.

Their internal documents and specialist reviews aren't that useful either because unlike most democracies, the US goes fully with the spoil systems and the elected positions for the higher administration, meaning that those who write these reports aren't the ones taking in fine the decisions: remember that our countries elect a government when the US elects an administration, and this difference is bigger in impact than you might believe. No Sir Humphrey, no ENArques entranched in the system to bring rationality. The White House, for example, has in theory a scientific advisor group made of some of the brightest minds on Earth to give the sitting POTUS a geopolitical/scientific analysis of events and possible outcomes, but under Trump, for example, that council was left empty for more than 18 months. Biden? He hasn't been allowed to send more than half a dozen ambassadors since his election: there is NO United States ambassador to France at the moment, for example.

Everything you consider so much as granted to not even think about it? It is NOT present in the US. Their system is so dysfunctional at the moment that the rational safeguards, the necessary cogs in the machine, are not even broken but absent altogether, no matter who is sitting in the White House. Then there is the elephant in china shop of a GOP that has been entirely transformed by Trump, with even the veterans and the regular heads of the party machine entirely subservient to his vision.

To understand how fucked up the situation currently is, the ambassador list is a pretty good thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambassadors_of_the_United_States

Order the list by "Confirmed" and see how many are blank:

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Of all the Great Powers, the US only has one ambassador, to Russia. And guess what, the rest of the administration is in that bad a shape.
 
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I do not think you realize the amount of irrationality currently at work in the US, Reaper. The USSR population was cynical by that time, the US one is deeply, deeply idealistic, both the Democrats and the Republicans. The Russian mindset that I've seen in their art, in discussions, in their litterature is that they can and will endure the shit that is thrown at them again and again, the joke being that Russian History can somehow be described, no matter the century by "Somehow, it got worse.". The US mindset, on the other hand, is that whatever gets thrown at them, they can fight and vanquish it with tech/firepower/cunning.

If you don't see the difference in outcomes, I don't know how to explain it to you.
It was quite the opposite in fact. Russian popular mindset was incredibly naive and romantic by the end of 1980s and ongoing collapse of the Soviet system. People genuinely wanted change and most importantly they believed in what they were promised. It was early 90s when the majority of the Russian population suffered a rather rude awakening about new realities of their lives. And this sudden dis-illusionment created a very fertile environment for all kinds of exploitative and subversive activities from religious cults to pseudo-science to financial scam artists.

Russian and Soviet fiction is often about adapting to the hostile environment, US fiction is about defeating and taming the hostile environment.
Its a generalization to a point of meaninglessness. Soviet fiction in general is very upbeat and optimistic by its very nature. It indeed promoted collectivism more often than not but it should not be mistaken with 'enduring hardship at any cost'. Soviet central idea was conquest of nature in both physical and psychological sense. Russian post-Soviet fiction definitely saw a surge of survivalist themes both through rather bleak conditions of the 90s and through flood-like influx of American-influenced popular culture. Crime drama become basically a dominant fiction genre both in literature and on TV/cinema in the 90s. But Russian criminal drama is no more passive or masochistic than US one. It rarely focuses on people who suffer from the crime (beyond it being standard inciting incident for e hero to begin his journey from) but more often is about people who fight crime (often in underhanded ways) or who commit crimes. Criminal romanticism was everywhere till very very recently.

So I'm not sure about what conclusions you are actually making from all of this.
 
[...] Criminal romanticism was everywhere till very very recently.

In Poland after 1990s there is no romanticism in criminal activity, aside comedies, which are understandable. Most of cultural artifacts are based with all these details on real events that took place then. And that were the times when Police was being reorganised, there were attempts to create unoffical speheres of influence by organised crime groups, which more or less have had corporate like structure, poverty and outright manifestation of the "law of fist" ie. stronger's prerogative is to take from weaker.
90s were insanity incarnate from my perspective, with only happy people being all these Solidarity morons laughing maniacally from being new kings of the scrapheap they have created. It were also these times when Catholic Church came out of hiding with deluded demands and solidified it's position as a real political power.
 
I believe your analysis is deeply flawed because you are projecting the Polish political situation on the US when they have nothing in common anymore: this isn't PR anymore, hasn't been for a decade or so. The thing is, the Washington caste has been brought into the absolute, undisputable certainty that reality doesn't apply to them anymore, that they shape History through their will and that the rest of us will just study what they did. This isn't comparable to Poland, UK, France or whatever, because they have the combination of imperial hubris and a sanctuary History that doesn't rear its head with harsh lessons. Sorry to hammer this, but you cannot project what you are experiencing in Poland to the United States of America. [...]

And here You are mistaken. I do project, partialy US belief system and world's vision on Poland. Since 1989 Poland's political scene slowly become similar to the US one, with rhetoric, argument construction literaly copied from US statespeople. Since 2015, desired model of the society and socio-political narration is literaly based on Wiliam Lindt's concepts and thoughts.

Poland do tries tirelessly emulate US political and social system, with added local characteristics.
Rest is a standart MO for coup like entrenchment of the political party. Also thanks to our political system, given the totality of last elections we cannot even say we elect government too - President is actually powerless, Sejm nothing more than zoo with apes and Ministerial Council is nothin more than secretariat of the Party Leader. President just signs papers. That's it. And all recent actions and restructuring basically gradually eliminates legally any real form of protest or even trying to amend that, not possible when other side has real deciding majority of Praliamentary seats. Senate is de facto advisory body.

While both coutries are not the same, there are many cognitive commonalities and ideological imperatives that overlap - Trump was a model US president according to the current Polish ruling caste and Polish friend (more or less a slave overlord actually) and Republican and GOP actions and policy was here emulated. Most of it failed becouse PiS does not have any as deep entrenchment level into the social fabric and institutions and cognitive dimension as their US counterparts. Polish post-Solidarity emulates US thinking and behauviour through the lenses of what they think they should do and add to that certain Polish characteristics, like catho-nationalism, different national phobias and aggressive ideological warfare. Pinnacle of to what it leads to you can see now on TV actually.

US is designated US ally and sovereign and is aped in every way imagineable, mostly becouse Polish culture we know is a synthetic creation of post Partition emigration. It is artificial and incoherent in itself, that is why we were literaly sucking in all post WW II and post 1989. Modern Polish society is much more akin to the US one now, both in mentality and world perception. Of course not whole, becouse now you have a clash between supporters of pro-European and pro-USA versions of reality, or more precisely, Polish interpretation of how and what EU and USA world veiw and morals are.
The model of Trump rising to power, PiS and Johnson were the same and were based on the same premises, of course tailored to the local electorial base and it's tastes.

And political patronage and vassalage in public institutions is everywhere. That is why since the 1990 security related papers in Poland have whole chapters of political correct moralisation rather than single sentence or no at all of these pre 1989.
 
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And here You are mistaken. I do project, partialy US belief system and world's vision on Poland. Since 1989 Poland's political scene slowly become similar to the US one, with rhetoric, argument construction literaly copied from US statespeople declaration. Since 2015, desired model of the society and socio-political narration is literaly based on Wiliam Lindt's concepts and thoughts.
The insanity of the US isn't exactly something I see in Poland, TBH. Sure, there might be an attempt to reproduce the US political system, but the society, the mindset, the civilization that lead to the system aren't anywhere close.
Rest is a standart MO for coup like entrenchment of the political party. Also thanks to our political system, given the totality of last elections we cannot even say we elect government too - President is actually powerless, Sejm nothing more than zoo with apes and Ministerial Council is nothin more than secretariat of the Party Leader. President just signs papers. That's it. And all recent actions and restructuring basically gradually eliminates legally any real form of protest or even trying to amend that, not possible when other side has real deciding majority of Praliamentary seats. Senate is de facto advisory body.
Which isn't remotely comparable to the US system, thank you for proving my point.
While both coutries are not the same, there are many cognitive commonalities and ideological imperatives that overlap - Trump was a model US president according to the current Polish ruling caste and Polish friend (more or less a slave overlord actually) and Republican and GOP actions and policy was here emulated. Most of it failed becouse PiS does not have any as deep entrenchment level into the social fabric and institutions and cognitive dimension as their US counterparts. Polish post-Solidarity emulates US thinking and behauviour through the lenses of what they think they should do and add to that certain Polish characteristics, like catho-nationalism, different national phobias and aggressive ideological warfare. Pinnacle of to what it leads to you can see now on TV actually.
If that is the pinnacle of the Polish efforts, then you should be glad of coming very, very short from the dysfunction of the US system. While you guys might want to put a layer of US nonsense on your society, you cannot reproduce it without reformatting your entire history, culture, etc., from scratch (and, no, you guys aren't cbeing even close of doing it in the way needed). The issue with your perception is that you are seeing Trump and the GOP under the prism of the Polish political system in how they are perceived there and how they are seen as an end-goal by your ruling party, but without taking into consideration the massive civilizational and political differences between Poland and the US. What would be a bunch of kleptocratic corrupt clowns clamping down on political power to benefit themselves in one country are a crowd of increasingly hard-core ideologists who deny the very notion of facts and truth to push towards their vision, literally ready and willing to die and/or sell their country just to piss off their political enemies.

For all the efforts done that way, Poland isn't anywhere resembling the US.
 
The insanity of the US isn't exactly something I see in Poland, TBH. Sure, there might be an attempt to reproduce the US political system, but the society, the mindset, the civilization that lead to the system aren't anywhere close.
There is no Polish civilisation per se, but actually at one point in the time IF the Partitions would not happen, the chance for actual existance of soemthing that could be called that.
The reason why we do not have as dysfunctional system is becouse deconstrruction effort and teaching reforms are being introduced only now. Given the PiS would rule as it is for next 2-3 decades without colapsing the country or triggering humanitarian intervention or be partitioned once again it would look like mixture of North Korea masquarading as USA.
In case of ruling class going in full "own the opposition" is pretty much similar, in case of rhetoric and PR campaing actually. It is strange actually when you see polish politicians roleplaying pesudo-democrats and pseudo-republicans on live TV. And people treat that as a gospel, just like US citizenry.
True the systems are different, with us trying to copycat a asylum patient. And history was aleredy reformatted many times for the last three decades almost on the yearly basis. Nowadays now one knows actually what was happening pre 1989 nor in the 1990s, unless you count personal experiances. Modern Polish politics seems to be going through on the daily basis with vouge shout outs to the Solidarity, II Polish Republic and traditional martyrology, but all of them are by now just empty world that mean all and nothing, usually used as a sticker for fortification the newest slogan. Also lack of consistent internal and external policymaking. Many people actually don't know that currently all cadres lost to the political and socail upheaval of 1990s are being from the ground up attemptoed to be rebuild, but given amount of wheel reinventing and dead ends they are maing it bodes ill for future.

Still it does not answer question of how US protestant fundamentalism would lead US to the preventive war with China and risk nuclear war? Becouse, despite everyone and US especially knows that they cannot shield themselves from Chinese retaliation against their homeland nor their regional allies especially.
 
There is no Polish civilisation per se, but actually at one point in the time IF the Partitions would not happen, the chance for actual existance of soemthing that could be called that.
The reason why we do not have as dysfunctional system is becouse deconstrruction effort and teaching reforms are being introduced only now. Given the PiS would rule as it is for next 2-3 decades without colapsing the country or triggering humanitarian intervention or be partitioned once again it would look like mixture of North Korea masquarading as USA.
In case of ruling class going in full "own the opposition" is pretty much similar, in case of rhetoric and PR campaing actually. It is strange actually when you see polish politicians roleplaying pesudo-democrats and pseudo-republicans on live TV. And people treat that as a gospel, just like US citizenry.
True the systems are different, with us trying to copycat a asylum patient. And history was aleredy reformatted many times for the last three decades almost on the yearly basis. Nowadays now one knows actually what was happening pre 1989 nor in the 1990s, unless you count personal experiances. Modern Polish politics seems to be going through on the daily basis with vouge shout outs to the Solidarity, II Polish Republic and traditional martyrology, but all of them are by now just empty world that mean all and nothing, usually used as a sticker for fortification the newest slogan. Also lack of consistent internal and external policymaking. Many people actually don't know that currently all cadres lost to the political and socail upheaval of 1990s are being from the ground up attemptoed to be rebuild, but given amount of wheel reinventing and dead ends they are maing it bodes ill for future.
And for all of this shit, you guys aren't the US in any way or shape. There is too much to internalize, to make deeply yours from their culture, language, history. And even in that case, you still wouldn't think like them, not when geography is so important to define the US mindset as well. Seriously, Poland isn't going to become similar to the US: fucked-up, yes, but differently so, like a cargo cult that has many troubles but little aviation gasoline fires.
Still it does not answer question of how US protestant fundamentalism would lead US to the preventive war with China and risk nuclear war? Becouse, despite everyone and US especially knows that they cannot shield themselves from Chinese retaliation against their homeland nor their regional allies especially.
They are pretty likely to believe that with enough pressure and MIC promises, China will collapse on its own leading to a century of glory. And I wish I was exagerrating, but I'm not really: this is the mindset at work here among an increasing part of their leadership, one where reality does not matter. Remember that the Pentagon was genuinely afraid Trump would start a war with China during the post-election mess.
 
They are pretty likely to believe that with enough pressure and MIC promises, China will collapse on its own leading to a century of glory. And I wish I was exagerrating, but I'm not really: this is the mindset at work here among an increasing part of their leadership, one where reality does not matter. Remember that the Pentagon was genuinely afraid Trump would start a war with China during the post-election mess.

That is why any conflict will most likely arise due to the strategic miscalculation, most likely underestimation of Chinese capabilities or overestimation of US one after the period of build up and rising tensions, maybe on the fringes on the spheres of influence through escalation event, rather than pure protestant fundamentalism, unless we count in inherent idea of being new chosen nation therefore, yes, they will prevail, rather than some pure religious reasons.
Also reality does matter, only their version of it, a version where they are still a hyperpower and war with China will be looking like Clancy novel, which beside all that, is very much liked and cited by their defense establishment.
 
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That is why any conflict will most likely arise due to the strategic miscalculation, most likely underestimation of Chinese capabilities or overestimation of US one after the period of build up and rising tensions, maybe on the fringes on the spheres of influence through escalation event, rather than pure protestant fundamentalism, unless we count in inherent idea of being new chosen nation therefore, yes, they will prevail, rather than some pure religious reasons.
Also reality does matter, only their version of it, a version where they are still a hyperpower and war with China will be looking like Clancy novel, which beside all that, is very much liked and cited by their defense establishment.

That's precisely the reason why, as an long term observer of Chinese and international affairs (alongside US politics), I for one have said that the US will start this fight but China will absolutely finish it, because the Chinese have a much clearer and accurate assessment of (and preparations for) the situation as it is than the US establishment would ever hope to have, and why it is far more important for the US to lose even moreso than a Chinese victory.
 
That's precisely the reason why, as an long term observer of Chinese and international affairs (alongside US politics), I for one have said that the US will start this fight but China will absolutely finish it, because the Chinese have a much clearer and accurate assessment of (and preparations for) the situation as it is than the US establishment would ever hope to have, and why it is far more important for the US to lose even moreso than a Chinese victory.

That depends on the point of origin of the conflict and escalation model, becosue two main outcomes are either last ditch effort made by US that is foiled and ends with collapse of US government and it's hegemonic position or they push harder escalating conflict. And then we look on possible nuclearisation by either side depending on how good actual combat doctrines and military technics they have, ie. how much they are effective in reality than paper, becouse if Chinese recreation and expansion of old Soviet RSC actually works then US surface fleet is toasted and US goes with deescalation through escalation, if not then the Chinese will use from such measure. On the other hand their no first use policy coupled with arsenal expansion seem to say that they have credible conventional deterrent backed up by the nuclear one, meaning they are certain that they can wage effectively conventional war with US, at least in the opening phases and then if US will not back down, they retain nuclear option.
 
A common EU army ain't the priority, industrial and technological sovereignty is. After all, our best bet for the imminent World War is to sit it out and let the wannabe hegemons wreck each other. As for the EU destroying itself, that's only in the British tabloid headlines, not in the real world.
Build more nukes?

Build more nuclear powerplants, more like. If they want to be a sovereign entity rather than some other empire's vassal state, they will need energy independence.
That means making the idiot greens shut up, of course.
 
Build more nuclear powerplants, more like. If they want to be a sovereign entity rather than some other empire's vassal state, they will need energy independence.
That means making the idiot greens shut up, of course.
Contrary to pupolar beliefs "green idiots" like nuclear power. It is the matter of proper education and perception manipulation.
 
Build more nuclear powerplants, more like. If they want to be a sovereign entity rather than some other empire's vassal state, they will need energy independence.
That means making the idiot greens shut up, of course.
And we spend a shitload on hydrogen (ideally, we could end up having the European South build up an energyy production economy to sell to the North through hydrogen) as well as literally half of the budget for ITER.
 
And we spend a shitload on hydrogen (ideally, we could end up having the European South build up an energyy production economy to sell to the North through hydrogen) as well as literally half of the budget for ITER.
Hydrogen isn't and cannot be primary energy. What use is hydrogen when there is a far more basic problem of European electricity prices being around ~15 times more than, say, Russia's? Are you going to put another layer and make it ~25 times?

The European energy policy seems like a sea of idiocy, though with small islands of sanity roughly corresponding to French-aligned interests, since they are finally putting classification of nuclear power as 'green' on the agenda. In the middle of an energy crisis, the EU is fining Poland for coal mines. Meanwhile, the third energy package put essential contradictions in the structure of the European energy market.

You can talk about energy independence all day long, but it takes a very special kind of mind to make sure that different agents have maximally contradictory interests throughout energy supply chain, especially making it mega-profitable for some financial agents to have a big energy crisis in the first place. Naturally, this isn't just energy—it hurts agriculture, and not just Dutch heated greenhouses, but everyone by closing down fertiliser producers and other chemical industries. And so on.

Appropriately, the scheme was primarily pushed through within the EU under by British lobby. Which means the Anglo-Saxons are triple-fucking the Europeans. First by pushing policies that makes European energy security maximally dysfunctional, driven by neoliberal ideology rather than actual security. Second by leaving them out to dry on LNG after promising them the world. And third by undermining European industries, thus potentially grabbing a bigger piece of the market pie in the near future.

You know, of course one shouldn't be too pessimistic about the European Union, at least in relative terms—in this world, everyone has so many problems that the EU's aren't especially terrible. But to be very blunt, these recent events are yet another example of just how well-trained bootlickers the Europeans are: no matter how hard the Anglo-Saxons screw them, they'll still find a way to squeal about Russia. Ya'all can barely even invent your own propaganda—all these talking points like 'using energy as a weapon'* are just the same in the last sixty years, initiated by American Cold Warriors like Kenneth Keating in the 1960s.

Though TBF to the French, about a year ago I had wondered why the French press started going further and further anti-Russian. But then, the realisation: the Russians started stepping on France's toes in Françafrique. Which makes it already a large step up, since least it's driven by some kind of notion of specifically French or European interests, instead of being yet another mindless copypasta of American propaganda.

*Exercise for the reader: try to elucidate what in the world that even means in concrete terms.
 
*Exercise for the reader: try to elucidate what in the world that even means in concrete terms.
What do you mean? Energy as a wepon = lasers, of course! We will put sanctions on Russia for lasers :)
Anyway, I've lost practically all hope that European energy policy will get more sane over time. As the economic situation in the EU gets worse (and it is getting worse rapidly, it's incredible how fast food prices grow, and as for construction...), it will only produce more political extremism. It's much easier to blame others for one's misfortune, and with all the wonderful US and especially British anti-Russian propaganda we've been hearing and seeing since at least 2008, blaming Russia doesn't require practically any effort now. Last week I've seen an interview with a Slovak EP member, who no matter what facts you show him is absolutely convinced that Russia is the sole responsible party in our energy crisis. And there are many more in the EP just like him. These guys are perfectly able to call for sanctions on Russia and Gazprom right in the middle of a serious gas deficit :) At the same while demanding that Gazprom increases gas supplies (without new contracts, of course; Gazprom is expected to simply push more gas, and that's it).
I'm looking at the EU and I see the old socialist block that I grew up in. Ideology above reason.
 
*Exercise for the reader: try to elucidate what in the world that even means in concrete terms.

Taken literally, I'm pretty sure that all weapons involve the use of energy, in some form or another. Even a caveman who hits you with a stone axe is using kinetic energy as a weapon.

But what they perhaps mean? Using the threat of withholding a source of energy as a means of extortion. Or something like that. It's kind of a "we get to treat you like dirt, but you must still keep supplying us with energy" mindset.
 
What do you mean? Energy as a wepon = lasers, of course! We will put sanctions on Russia for lasers :)
Anyway, I've lost practically all hope that European energy policy will get more sane over time. As the economic situation in the EU gets worse (and it is getting worse rapidly, it's incredible how fast food prices grow, and as for construction...), it will only produce more political extremism. It's much easier to blame others for one's misfortune, and with all the wonderful US and especially British anti-Russian propaganda we've been hearing and seeing since at least 2008, blaming Russia doesn't require practically any effort now. Last week I've seen an interview with a Slovak EP member, who no matter what facts you show him is absolutely convinced that Russia is the sole responsible party in our energy crisis. And there are many more in the EP just like him. These guys are perfectly able to call for sanctions on Russia and Gazprom right in the middle of a serious gas deficit :) At the same while demanding that Gazprom increases gas supplies (without new contracts, of course; Gazprom is expected to simply push more gas, and that's it).
I'm looking at the EU and I see the old socialist block that I grew up in. Ideology above reason.
I have heard passing mentions that many Green parties arose from the anti-nuclear movements which were known for being more shrill than anything. In Belgium right now, they want to speed up the decommissioning of the aging nuclear reactors in favor of gas-fired plants. It's getting them shelled left and right because of how contradictory the entire thing is.
 
I have heard passing mentions that many Green parties arose from the anti-nuclear movements which were known for being more shrill than anything. In Belgium right now, they want to speed up the decommissioning of the aging nuclear reactors in favor of gas-fired plants. It's getting them shelled left and right because of how contradictory the entire thing is.

Everyone is fearing another Chernobyl, and that is pure Cold War scare and propaganda.
Also a viable security concern, given possibility of their destruction through sabotage or enemy action, on the other hand.
 
Also a viable security concern, given possibility of their destruction through sabotage or enemy action, on the other hand.
That is the reason why I don't much believe into the small modular NPPs. Physical security is a big part of the budget of any NPP, both during construction and during operations. Shells capable of withstanding an aircraft impact, serious armed defenses, etc. In bigger NPPs this is a reasonable part of the overall costs, for a small NPP it would be IMO prohibitively expensive and the produced energy would be also too expensive. Also, in the densely populated Europe small power plants are unnecessary.

It's getting them shelled left and right because of how contradictory the entire thing is.
The greens are always very funny. Baerbock is attacking Nord Stream 2 every chance she gets, completely ignoring the fact that it produces 5 times less greenhouse gases than the currently used Ukrainian route. It's shorter, has a higher pressure, much less compressor stations (which use gas turbines), newer and much cleaner equipment... nevermind, it's bad! Ideological moronism at its best.
And now their policies brought much of EU into a situation which, if the winter will be as cold as the last one, is likely to get so bad that it will discredit green policies for the next decade. Any populist in Europe will be able to get elected just by attacking the Green Deal, and the Commission will of course try to protect it, and it will be just another long-term political division within the EU...
 
[...]The greens are always very funny. Baerbock is attacking Nord Stream 2 every chance she gets, completely ignoring the fact that it produces 5 times less greenhouse gases than the currently used Ukrainian route. It's shorter, has a higher pressure, much less compressor stations (which use gas turbines), newer and much cleaner equipment... nevermind, it's bad! Ideological moronism at its best.
And now their policies brought much of EU into a situation which, if the winter will be as cold as the last one, is likely to get so bad that it will discredit green policies for the next decade. Any populist in Europe will be able to get elected just by attacking the Green Deal, and the Commission will of course try to protect it, and it will be just another long-term political division within the EU...

They are useful idiots, propaganda trolls used by the highest bidder.
 
They are useful idiots, propaganda trolls used by the highest bidder.
Which is actually infuriating. Climate change is a real problem, and there are many things we could and should do to slow it down as much as possible so that we have time to adapt. But these morons use the agenda in a way that will completely discredit it, and in the end it will turn into a huge global political fight instead of a sensible, consensual program of global reduction of emissions. And the EU stands to lose a lot from unmitigated climate change. I wonder how will our local russophobes like us being dependent not only for gas, but also for food on Russia...
 
Which is actually infuriating. Climate change is a real problem, and there are many things we could and should do to slow it down as much as possible so that we have time to adapt. But these morons use the agenda in a way that will completely discredit it, and in the end it will turn into a huge global political fight instead of a sensible, consensual program of global reduction of emissions. And the EU stands to lose a lot from unmitigated climate change. I wonder how will our local russophobes like us being dependent not only for gas, but also for food on Russia...
The biggest beef I have with climate change 'policy' is how politicians are totally sidestepping the fact that it will take a hit to standards of living to actually even dare to even try to meet the Paris agreements or exceed them. And no, it's not going to be some fancy high tech looking solution like wind mills or solar panels; we are looking at some very industrial way of removing carbon from the atmosphere because odds are, we are already past the points of no return when it comes to slowing down the rise in temperature. The technologies are still at their infancy, but short of hoping we just sprout trees all over the place to absorb carbon dioxide and stop producing carbon altogther, there's no other way to remove carbon from the atmosphere.

Either that or hope we get an Tambora style volcanic explosion ever few years just to lower the temperature of the planet, with hilarious results for crop cultivation.
 
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