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The Trump-Russia Investigation Thread: Mueller Goes Terminator Edition

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  • Huh?

    Votes: 2 6.3%
  • Seriously?

    Votes: 6 18.8%
  • ... are we in some crappy technothriller?

    Votes: 23 71.9%
  • WTF?

    Votes: 1 3.1%

  • Total voters
    32
I don't bully the americans: I am very respectful towards our Canadian members.
You say this, but then you engage in libel against superior Russian vodka to mock me.

You are a fake respect-giver! J'accuse!
What happens when one of them tells Trump to pound sand and testifies anyway?
The same as always. The Republicans, who openly engage in political theater and have stated so in many public interviews, will go "bu-bu- but, it's all just political!". Which will be more than enough for the sheep of the 'Murican electorate to ignore anything that was said. They will then continue to fail to inform themselves until the debates for the general election, where they will then pick out one or two nonsensical statements that they will use to form their entire opinion on the election. Presuming that they do not already vote according to 'R' or 'D' already, irrespective of any information.
 
Judge rules against President Donald Trump in financial records fight with Congress - Associated Press 5/20/19
This just in:

Associated Press said:
WASHINGTON — Judge rules against President Donald Trump in financial records fight with Congress. This is a breaking news update. Check back for more.
 
Some news on the Contempt front, apparently the Committee had voted to suggest a contempt charge to the whole chamber, but the Speaker has come forward and stated that the whos and the punishments are still being decided. Other probable targets include the Secretary of the Treasury and the ex-White House legal council.
 
Yup, it's all over for Trumpie...


... except for the new investigation by Trumpie's lapdog against the Justice Department and all the intelligence agencies that thought that an investigation into the rampant corruption was warranted. Unsurprisingly, spineless Republicans are totally concerned about the rule of law this time, unlike those other times where they ignored their Führer's criminal actions.

If you can't handle the facts that you were corrupt as fuck, just drown out those facts with mountains of bullshit.
 
Man, Barr's really good at this. He's definitely using the Oliver North's playbook here. His heroic effort to defend the interests of Russiablican Party will certainly be remembered for generations to come.

By the way: I'm amazed that a mere 30 years ago, a President of the United States could literally get away with commiting an act of high treason by conspiring with the enemies of the United States, absolutely scot-free...

...and yet some people still actually believe that Trump is going to be prosecuted.

lol
 
Man, Barr's really good at this. He's definitely using the Oliver North's playbook here. His heroic effort to defend the interests of Russiablican Party will certainly be remembered for generations to come.

By the way: I'm amazed that a mere 30 years ago, a President of the United States could literally get away with commiting an act of high treason by conspiring with the enemies of the United States, absolutely scot-free...

...and yet some people still actually believe that Trump is going to be prosecuted.

lol
For some reason, they believe they have an independent judicial system rather than their joke.
 
Mueller to make 1st public statement on Russia probe
This just in from the Associated Press:

Mueller to make 1st public statement on Russia probe
Mueller to make 1st public statement on Russia probe said:
WASHINGTON — Special counsel Robert Mueller is set to make his first public statement on the Russia investigation Wednesday, the Justice Department said.

Mueller will speak at the Justice Department at 11 a.m. and won't take any questions.

It was not clear what he intended to say, but the statement comes amid demands for Mueller to testify on Capitol Hill about his findings and tension with Attorney General William Barr over the handling of his report.

Mueller's report into Russia meddling in the 2016 election did not find that Russia and the Trump campaign coordinated to sway the presidential election. It did not reach a conclusion on whether the president had obstructed justice.

Barr is currently in Alaska for work.

VERY LATE EDIT:

Mueller has made a statement, and basically summed up is that DoJ policy prevents indictments on a sitting president and the report is his statement...
 
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Well now we need to impeach him and then play the senate as bought off if they don't convicted
 
Well now we need to impeach him and then play the senate as bought off if they don't convicted
Here's a little interesting problem with that, if we go for impeachment now, Mitch will choose what evidence will be presented in the proceedings. That would turn the entire thing into a sham and quite a few Dems know it.
 
Here's a little interesting problem with that, if we go for impeachment now, Mitch will choose what evidence will be presented in the proceedings. That would turn the entire thing into a sham and quite a few Dems know it.
a naked sham, no one not already to far gone would see it otherwise, donnnie will never be Bill and even Bill had to loose something to leave office without hand cuffs, plus we have more charismatic dems then Gore
 
a naked sham, no one not already to far gone would see it otherwise, donnnie will never be Bill and even Bill had to loose something to leave office without hand cuffs, plus we have more charismatic dems then Gore
The problem is the 'goldfish' voters, which are vital for the 2020 elections, and how bad they are in remembering things. The best we can do is simply let all the investigations keep going forward and simply start circling for the kill. The cylinder in our metaphorical REVOLVER OF JUSTICE only has one shot right now, and that is not enough. Going LEROY JENKINS right now is stupid and foolish as it would only hurt us. We need our cylinder of our metaphorical revolver to be fully loaded for impeachment with a fair amount of stacking the deck as well.

Doing Impeachment right now is pretty bad as we're going into the summer and the voters would be focused on summer things instead of political things... the perfect time for Mitch to bury an impeachment.
 
The problem is the 'goldfish' voters, which are vital for the 2020 elections, and how bad they are in remembering things. The best we can do is simply let all the investigations keep going forward and simply start circling for the kill. The cylinder in our metaphorical REVOLVER OF JUSTICE only has one shot right now, and that is not enough. Going LEROY JENKINS right now is stupid and foolish as it would only hurt us. We need our cylinder of our metaphorical revolver to be fully loaded for impeachment with a fair amount of stacking the deck as well.

Doing Impeachment right now is pretty bad as we're going into the summer and the voters would be focused on summer things instead of political things... the perfect time for Mitch to bury an impeachment.
Mitch tries that and he hand dems all the elections
 
Mitch tries that and he hand dems all the elections
As summer is starting? No, it won't. We're getting into a political news deadzone in the US, everyone would be doing summer things than listening to the news. Since the GOP control the senate and Mitch controls what can and can't be used as evidence, impeachment will fail and combined with the summer, the GOP can spin doctor it the way they want it and there is really nothing that the Dems can do about it. However if they start this September or towards December, then they might have a chance but we're basically dealing with goldfish-level memory voters here.
 
As summer is starting? No, it won't. We're getting into a political news deadzone in the US, everyone would be doing summer things than listening to the news. Since the GOP control the senate and Mitch controls what can and can't be used as evidence, impeachment will fail and combined with the summer, the GOP can spin doctor it the way they want it and there is really nothing that the Dems can do about it. However if they start this September or towards December, then they might have a chance but we're basically dealing with goldfish-level memory voters here.
this is how we lose Aaron either we trust our people or we are we even worth saving?
 
this is how we lose Aaron either we trust our people or we are we even worth saving?
No, that is simply the reality of the situation. The summer is the worst time to pull this because of the media dead zone. Right now we have to play to our strengths and right now that is keeping Trump and Co divided among the 15-18 different investigations that are currently ongoing and build a case so our metaphorical REVOLVER OF JUSTICE has as full cylinder of rounds to make sure an impeachment sticks. Starting the process now is likely to backfire because, unlike you, I have a more nuanced stance on the situation.

Basically, we're in a situation where there is horrible garrymandering, actual voter suppression, and actual foreign interference involved. This only serves to rile up Trump's base about a 'Coup' and further damage to Dem morale. By impeaching now, we would get the problem that -outside a literal military and IC backed coup of the government- the only other way to win is by elections... the chances of a Dem victory you've just absolutely kneecapped by going with impeachment right now.
 
Spencer Hsu on Twitter
BREAKING Ordered to file transcripts of all recordings of ex -Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn, U.S. prosecutors today filed a transcript of the only recording they say is part of his sentencing record after pleading guilty in Mueller probe to hiding Russian contacts
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