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<Reaper>666

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NEWS.

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Two days ago it was signed and announced that S-500 AA/ABM system was accepted into the service as trials have ended. Production is greenlight and factorial gears start to turn.


Menawhile in Poland MANPAD launcher for surface ships was developed few pieces are to be bought by the MoD, which is clear show of Polish technological superiority abouve Soviet Menance and clear and present sign of the further decline of Russian military - industrial complex
- polnet gestalt.
 

Inquisitor Solarion

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I'm surprised they finished testing with fewer issues this time... I recall how the S-400 was delayed as heck because of electronics issues. I heard hear say they had some help with that from the South Koreas (which led to what is called the S-350).
 

<Reaper>666

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I'm surprised they finished testing with fewer issues this time... I recall how the S-400 was delayed as heck because of electronics issues. I heard hear say they had some help with that from the South Koreas (which led to what is called the S-350).
Note: S-400 was working in 1999. What it lacked then was a new missile. Rhen it was basically a new launcher with old missiles.
Also a question of radar integration and hooking it up together through datalinks and now ith BMS, in other words an effect of USSR dissulution and collapse of internal supply chains and brain drain.

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Armed Forces of Russian Federation have taken in first batch of new aerosol grenades for vehicular self protection systems. They are smaller, lighter and protect aerosol screen effectively defeating optical, IR and laser acquisition of protected vehicle.

 
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Rubick

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Not my theme really. Brief lookup shows that it's the other way round: Nona-M with recoilles rifle mode was not adopted, and only gun-mortar variant (dubbed Nona-K and having an indirectfire capability) was used. Similarly, Nona-M1 does have an indirect fire capability, however, as it's an upgrade to the Nona-K, not Nona-M.
Yeah, I meant to write direct instead of indirect. My brain must have short circuited.

I'm surprised they finished testing with fewer issues this time... I recall how the S-400 was delayed as heck because of electronics issues. I heard hear say they had some help with that from the South Koreas (which led to what is called the S-350).

No, Korea/ Samsung helped in the 90's with shrinking of the electronics for the next variant in S-300 upgrades. And while Korea itself was looking for a SAM at that time. They got offered a "joint" venture on a medium range SAM from the 80's which only existed for the most part on paper and in a naval form. Known already as "Redut" which was planned to enter production in mid-late 90's. KM-SAM and Vityaz where derived from that.
 

<Reaper>666

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UCAVs on ZAPAD-21


Epoka in use on BMP-3 chasis, tests during ZAPAD-21


Notice the test being conducted by whole platoon worth of vehicles working together.

Of note: Pay close attention to the description of Epoka turret's 57 mm gun, which is based on the rejected AGS-57 mm a hybrid artillery system, being placed between gun and grenade launcher.
The new gun, the LShO-57 of 57x93 mm caliber and leght of 40 calibers is capable like it's protoplast of direct and indirect fire up to 6 km. Is designate for use of specially designed sabots, HE-FRAG and inciendary munitions.
The new BMP-3 with Epoka also has new internal layout to acomodate unmanned turret and crew is seated similarly like in T-14.

For reference, here is the picture of AGS-57

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<Reaper>666

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PEACE-2021 IS ONGOING. 4000 TROOPS FROM SHANGHAI PACT TRAIN TOGETHER


"An interesting fact is also the participation of engineering and sapper troops and combating weapons of mass destruction in direct combat against the enemy. They prepared an "anti-tank ditch" and a "firewall" in order to stop high-mobility terrorist formations using off-road vehicles. At the beginning, they lured the enemy to a designated area, where remotely planted explosives were detonated, cutting off the enemy's escape route, creating the aforementioned 2 km long ditch. Then the surrounded opponent was destroyed with a "fireball" made of incendiary agents. Additionally, an anti-tank sub-unit armed with ATGM launchers was created to protect the specialized vehicles, which rendered the SVBIED suicide vehicles ineffective."
 

<Reaper>666

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Russia is developing active camoflage for armored vehicles.


Aparently based in the technology used for "Sotnik".
 

<Reaper>666

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The first regiment has rolled out. I wonder what the performance of the ABM missile is like. Similar to the THAAD?
Like THAAD it will be hooked into singular integrated aerospace defense network, plus it is devised also for interception of hypersonic threats. Also S-500 is also a SAM system, not exclusive ABM like American one. Triumphator-M is a composite system providing capability for destroying various different threats with one system, rather whole family of different ones.
Also it has 360 degrees radar, not that American directional cupboard.
 
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<Reaper>666

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Interesting English Language article on relatively secret Russian developments for ABM. Is it bullshit?
No.
There are no secrets from at least past ten years becouse most of the old Cold War research are declassified, on both sides.
Fact that Russians create composity integrated aerospace defense network was a thing back in the 80s, where doctrinal requirements were formulated and research and testing started. The same was going for alliance level IADS integration. ABM and A-SAT organic capability for ground based systems was considered vital necesity since the late 80s.
S-500 is a net centric system similar to the AEGIS, but instead being placed in one warship it is distributed on many mobile platforms where launchers can be armed with variety of different effectors. So you basically have land version of distributed lethality concept.
Hook it into the milnet and BMS, feed inforamtion from every other platform, weapon carrier, sensor or even effector and you have a A2/AD "bubble" that basically zones out the defended area, for long enough to plow with tanks potential opposition, with impunity almost.

Aerospace defense is a vital cornerstone of Russian defense planning and takes priority.
 

Inquisitor Solarion

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No.
There are no secrets from at least past ten years becouse most of the old Cold War research are declassified, on both sides.
Fact that Russians create composity integrated aerospace defense network was a thing back in the 80s, where doctrinal requirements were formulated and research and testing started. The same was going for alliance level IADS integration. ABM and A-SAT organic capability for ground based systems was considered vital necesity since the late 80s.
S-500 is a net centric system similar to the AEGIS, but instead being placed in one warship it is distributed on many mobile platforms where launchers can be armed with variety of different effectors. So ypu basically have land version of distributed lethality concept.
Hook it into the milnet and BMS, feed inforamtion from every other platform, weapon carrier, sensor or even effector and you have a A2/AD "bubble" that basically zones out the defended area, for long enough to plow with tanks potential opposition, with impunity almost.
Well, what is different is the mention of a missile that is essentially an ICBM that is aimed at counterspace.
 

<Reaper>666

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Well, what is different is the mention of a missile that is essentially an ICBM that is aimed at counterspace.
What different?
It is an old concept, going as far back as to the beginings of ABM systems. Exoatmospheric interceptors were not developed becouse of the collapse of the USSR. No one was making single layered defense systems. Security enviroment of the Russia and then USSR was much different than US and in our Eastern breathren having ABM systems have had sanse. It is also why the evere developing that limited by treaty Moscow one, becouse it was a gold mine of practical and theoretical data to be used in developements elswhere.
And it is not an essentially an "counterspace ICBM". Not even close.

Funny thing is that no one is mentioning apparent restart of the Soviet Kontakt project on the other hand.

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A thing actually for past 3-4 years, publicly.
 
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<Reaper>666

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IN SOUTHERN MILITARY DISTRICT, SABOTEURS TRAIN

During large all army exercises in Southern Military District a twist was added by inserting about 50 SOF groups whose task was to, with use of all avaiable military cunning, training and initiative, disrupt activity of conventional forces.

According to the Russian MoD, both targets (ie. training for subversion, direct actions and sabotage by SOFs and protection of rear areas from special forces activity) were achieved.

But some military specialists, like cmdr. Dura, disagree and dispell the Kremlin propaganda effort:

"In turn, in the news from October 14, 2021, Minoborona boasted that: "subunits of anti-aircraft defense forces and electronic warfare systems prevented an attempt by reconnaissance and subversive groups using combat drones on mobile field command posts of military formations of the Southern Military District."

The Russians are trying to settle two issues with their announcements at once. First of all, in one piece of information, they wanted to show how numerous their sabotage groups are, which can secretly attack the enemy on his territory. Secondly, in the next news, they want to show that their troops are very well prepared for anti-diversion measures and are able to repel any hidden strikes by special forces. This task would have been possible if only one or the other news were read.

Reading them together, however, you get a completely different message. It shows that: either the Russian special forces were ineffective, despite the fact that it was supposed to show "maximum military cunning and deceitful actions", or the messages about successfully repelling the commando attack were untrue. In both, Minoboron's cases are viewed in a bad light.

In all this, it is important, however, that the commander of the Southern Military District will be able to boast of good preparation of his troops
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