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Uncle Rubick's Russian military media and news thread.

There is quite a lot of products in the works. But it's not a something that I follow and havent for a while now. TR1 is the guy to ask.
 
The entire party that posts in that thread should frankly be coaxed to join.

Nuclear subs in kronstadt.

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Well, a mockup has been revealed.




A more traditional approach. Which is not a shocker. Though still curious on number of things like the intake.
 
That's to be seen.


As far as PAK-FA we don't know how good the radar blocker is and if there are other solutions. Like composites will be utilized for the fan blades never mind the rest of the intake. It's not like S-ducts weren't familiar to Sukhoi. And diverterless supersonic inlet(s) would not be a option from the get go unless variable diverterless supersonic inlet(s).

Nozzles are the bigger question. Either they go the French way or there is something else or both.
 
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That's to be seen.


As far as PAK-FA we don't know how good the radar blocker is and if there are other solutions. Like composites will be utilized for the fan blades never mind the rest of the intake. It's not like S-ducts weren't familiar to Sukhoi. And diverterless supersonic inlet(s) would not be a option from the get go unless variable diverterless supersonic inlet(s).

Nozzles are the bigger question. Either they go the French way or there is something else.

I suppose getting a close look at a true production aircraft would entail a lot of security clearance.

But any evidence of any of the above has been implemented or yet at all? The impression I am getting is they are really going through this piecemeal, what with the real engine not even ready and at best undergoing iterative testing.
 
We know there is a radar blocker but that's it. Rest is unknown besides patents which may or may not be related to the program and guesses. And what Izd 30 (it's characteristics ) never mind the nozzles are also very much unknown. It's been said it will very heavily use a lot of composite materials. Cold section and hot section is going to be using PMC's among other composites has been said. And apparently there will be reduction by almost a half of the HP compressor stages Compared to the predecessor.


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Another teaser. A longer variant of the previous one.


 
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Well, odds are, they are using an S-duct with aircraft. But as Crueldwarf pointed out, this isn't anywhere on the state armament program for the year. Is this getting funded by overseas clients or?
 
Maybe, also is that a split intake or a shadow ? Don't know how it is now. But back in 2014 there were basicly 3 different groups. With one groups (loans) not actually being reported. The other two where State defense order and National defense budget.( btw which themselves consisted in a part out of loans the government issued itself.) And really there is a lot of work already invested from the looks of it and coupled with all the effort they went to organize all this hype.

And it seems to be UAE is the partner.


we will see soon enough.
 
S-350E (E as in export) @MAKS



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(min/max) range against aerodynamic targets 9M96E2, km 2.5/120, 9M100E, km 15 / 1.5

(min/max) altitude against aerodynamic targets: 9M96E2, km 0.01/25, 9M100E, km 0.01/8

(min/max) range against ballistic targets: 9M96E2, km 5/25

(min/max) altitude against ballistic targets: 9M96E2, km 2/20

(min/max) speed of ballistic targets engagement: 9M96E2 missiles, m / s 50/2000


Targets tracked: 200

With ability to engage 16 aerodynamic targets with 32 missiles and 12 ballistic targets with 24 missiles.
 
Well. Maybe the Americans were too influenced by the Germans who were busy emulating in many ways, including doctrine. I don't think the Germans fully understood what the Soviets were doing either.

Everybody was knowing what is being done and why, the releases were diffrent.
When we read articles from RAND, CSBA, DoD, or that CIA handbooks, declassified ones under FOIA (especially these post 2005), we can see real analyst work - with pros and cons of every piece of the hardware or doctrine.
BUT when we take to the hand the paper mashe from Osprey, signed by no one else than Steven Zaloga or other "elaborates" with strangly pseudo- "miltary" titles (sigend by people of renown, like Metaxas [yes, that general]) and written by someone like Lester Grau, we can learn very "curious" things about "operational schizophrenia", "not fighting the war tactically", "soviet thinking" constricting freedom and will (that one was about Russians using artillery tables) and Marxist-Lenninist compartmentalisation of knowledge (that one was about evils of segregating knowledge about the operational area, enemy, population and associated paraphrenalia - apparently Grau thinks knowledge about climate and road network and political composition of society is of no use for real, modern warfighting force).
Nowadays, most of the real publications are devoid of such things, but you can find some oddities (like statements about failure of Russia in Ukraine becouse they have not conquerd the whole country for example, which shows us how such "writers" have neither brain nor any knowledge about what actual goals were there*).

* Given in universities and academies, universally every country not possesing Western style ideal democracy is analysed in the context of irrational behauviour, usually, even in war games, it is assumed that such actor will not behave rationally, taking into account such things, like geopolitics, and not using strategy. Nowadays it is changing, but still, some people are fascinated by the notion of hybrid warfare, which leads to the ... very "interesting" scenarios, which actually are only good for winding popular paranoia (for example about Belorussian use of demographic weapon against Poland, despite even proponents of such ideas admitting that there are no real signs, which in turn is always implied that it is sign of expertly conducted operation).
 
S-500 performing test intercept against a high-speed ballistic target.



anyway

Orion UAV and it's specs.

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moving on


MiG-35 has received some foreign interest/customers. Apparently there are two costumers that agreed to potentially want to buy it. And a third costumer that wants to have a demonstration/evaluation.




Su-35 also has attracted several interest from undisclosed parties.
 
From MiG stand a presentation of prospective direction of development

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From left to right

Light multifunction airplane, a shipborne(supposedly) UAV and a shipborne(supposedly) fighter


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Doubt this will be going anywhere. This is MiG basicly partially currently just throwing out a bunch of underdeveloped concepts.
 
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Basically designed to compete on the market with Chinese planes and fill the niche that the MiG-21 left. The goal is to keep preferably not above the 30 million dollars range. They are hoping to get the plane into production within 5,5 years.
 
Not really besides in the end. But it's not audible enough for my ears. Anyway I'm off to get some bread.

Speaking of bread. Rufus what is you opinion on this ?

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Inquisitor Solarion you should link this shit up at SB. This place needs more people.
 
Speaking of bread. Rufus what is you opinion on this ?
Unlikely to stay below 30M$ without a lot of funding from the Russian government for each sale. Sure, single-engine reduces the cost, but unless it's utterly shit when it comes to electronics, it'll be in the Gripen's range at best IMO. Plus, unlike China, Russia won't really be able to seriously mass-produce it for internal use and thus reduce its production cost for export.
 
Unlikely to stay below 30M$ without a lot of funding from the Russian government for each sale. Sure, single-engine reduces the cost, but unless it's utterly shit when it comes to electronics, it'll be in the Gripen's range at best IMO. Plus, unlike China, Russia won't really be able to seriously mass-produce it for internal use and thus reduce its production cost for export.

Yes. that goal is quite lofty and I also don't think they'll manage. But it does seem to have some unification cockpit instrumentation seems to be from Su-57. Canopy and vertical stabilizers look also to be from Su-57. No doubt rest of avionics will be derived from Su-57 besides the radar. Engine I also doubt will be the Izd 30. All in all it should be a reasonably cheap jet. Though not likely at the price they aim for.

My opinion is though it's a bit to late. By the time the production will be ready and that is assuming there will be no delays (and there will be) the market will be filled and there will be alternatives. Hell who knows maybe even India will develop a decent plane and lunch it into production(don't laugh)

Don't think Russia would have a problem mass producing it numbers for it's own use if RuAF actually wanted it. Should be a lot easier then Su-57.
 
Yes. that goal is quite lofty and I also don't think they'll manage. But it does seem to have some unification cockpit instrumentation seems to be from Su-57. Canopy and vertical stabilizers look also to be from Su-57. No doubt rest of avionics will be derived from Su-57 besides the radar. Engine I also doubt will be the Izd 30. All in all it should be a reasonably cheap jet. Though not likely at the price they aim for.

Avionics package can and will most likely be tailored to the specific needs of the potential buyer. Besides most of the users will not need as advanced version as you actually can make, given the potential threats they are facing (some of them are already colonised by China and are too poor to ever operate the museum pieces they already have). Also lack of decent IADS means that it is much economically viable to buy some relatively cheap long range precision strike capacity, given the recent trends, instead of buying a squadron of relatively high end fighters.
 
Yes. that goal is quite lofty and I also don't think they'll manage. But it does seem to have some unification cockpit instrumentation seems to be from Su-57. Canopy and vertical stabilizers look also to be from Su-57. No doubt rest of avionics will be derived from Su-57 besides the radar. Engine I also doubt will be the Izd 30. All in all it should be a reasonably cheap jet. Though not likely at the price they aim for.
That will save some money, but not that much in the end, especially as Felon isn't really built in large enough numbers right now for cost reductions to happen. Then there's a good part of the coding to redo, so while some of the development costs will be reduced, it won't be that good.
My opinion is though it's a bit to late. By the time the production will be ready and that is assuming there will be no delays (and there will be) the market will be filled and there will be alternatives. Hell who knows maybe even India will develop a decent plane and lunch it into production(don't laugh)
*laughs hard*

But, yeah, KF-21 is probably going to be there and be a painful competitor, while the F4 then F5 variants of the Duckie will still be pretty relevant for those who want to go ITAR-free.
Don't think Russia would have a problem mass producing it numbers for it's own use if RuAF actually wanted it. Should be a lot easier then Su-57.
That's a huge IF. Su-57 answers pretty much all Russian needs while this new plane probably doesn't.
 
The only thing the new plane answer for Russian needs is cheap in numbers. Su-57, while more capable, is a lot more expensive after all.
 
The only thing the new plane answer for Russian needs is cheap in numbers. Su-57, while more capable, is a lot more expensive after all.
Wouldn't be that more expensive in the end, is available now rather than later and, most importantly, has enough performance to be a deterrent by existing. Look at it this way: would you consider sending F-35 in an area that has Su-57 around without a huge escort package, knowing that Felon probably has anti-VLO radars, range and speed to lolnope the Pigeon? There, by being around, the plane makes mission planning way more complicated.
 
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