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Venezuela

Try to win a war at all after 1918. Oh wait. You can't. I'll say this again just to rub it in and reduce you to your usual shitposting.

Kicked out of Vietnam by force, even as the effort had its check written by America with all that free equipment.

Tries to act like its a big boy in Egypt, gets slapped in the face with Britain by reality.

De Gaulle pissed away all the effort by hanging his head and going home, losing the Civil War in Algiers, resulting in mass ethnic cleansing of the French/Pied Noir non muslim population. I can't stress this enough, Algiers wasn't even a colony in the usual sense, it was Metropolitan French. It was part of France longer than Texas and California have been part of the USA.

Tossed out of Francophone Africa and reduced to playing hitmen for the local elite. Unless you would like to state otherwise?

Backed the Hutus to the hilt and acted pissy when the Tutsis didn't quitely die off like good little subjects.
So, you can't refute anything therefore you go ad hominem and attack the other guy rather than answer. Roger that.

Ah, well. Maybe you'll find some country to invade that will not fight back one day so you can finally get your short and victorious war to feel your military spending vindicated. *munches popcorn*
 
Funnily enough Cuba actually can do something, as its been supporting guerilla conflicts for the past 50 years, especially in Angola, another jungle ridden country.
While having its economy AND military subsidized by the USSR. And having an explicit nuclear guarantee FROM the USSR in regards to potential blockades. The only question is if Russia still cares about Cuba even remotely that much anymore, and if they don't, everything Cuba floats can and would be sunk. Everything they try to fly gets shot down.
And China, Russia and Cuba can't just be told to fuck off, because they can tell the US to fuck off.
Not unless they are willing to engage in open nuclear brinkmanship, ala Cold War.

And its a hard sell to their own people as well, literally being asked to spend blood and treasure because Chavez and Maduro went full Mugabe. I wonder if anyone has done the exact math on how much money Chavez fucked himself out of by being a stupid dickhead in regards to selling his oil?
Oh wow, at one point they weren't even getting piad for half the oil they produced, and that was AFTER the price crash.
What the hell is Trump going to do to them that the US hasn't already done?
Invade, and hunt down the looting thugs that pass themselves off as the Venezuelan Army.
But most importantly, the. US. cannot. AFFORD. another. war.
It can't afford the ones we are already in. But man o man, I wouldn't find this type of opposition on SB or SV in regards to more wars for Israel more middle east interventions. It's all "but thou must" "but policy" but bluh bluh bluh Iran hates Israel
It will look terrible, you know all those protestors who go around denouncing US imperialism? Well their going to be fucking vindicated.
So what, let the process of Zimbabwe-fication continue? You did know what happened to Venezuelan food production and why it plummeted? Oh right, if we wait long enough, only party loyalist will remain alive and even partially fed, so the when we do go in, we won't have much opposition.

Intervention in Venezuela is everything the "Humanitarians" ever wanted as a target. It also has an immediate benefit. It also has several simple solutions lined up, because it really is a nice, identifiable group of assholes doing everything they can to keep the sinking ship sinking.
Expect Bernie and his isolationist chums to become rock stars overnight.
Hasn't happened despite war after war in the middle east providing zero benefit.

Oh but right, I guess the medi might paint it so much more differently.
Every country remotely to the left of european liberalism will start giving the USA a side eye,
Uh.....no change? And after the shitshow Libya turned into? We would firmly be in the begative fucks given zone
and except maybe in Brazil and Columbia the latin american nations collective publics will be shitting themselves at the idea that they could be next,
Not really. Only Bolivia. The rest havn't taken the wealthiest country on the continent and burned everything down to suck off their Cuban masters
expect a full generation of anti-americanos.
Oh really? Where at? More to the point, where at that that would represent a change in opinion?
China is going to be every nation who is on the US's shit list best buddy, because at least THEY haven't invaded anyone recently.
Kind of already are
The EU will likely role out of any war altogether because they're the ones calling for dialogue at the moment.
Negative fucks given. Europe spent a solid decade moaning and whining about how horrid we were for Iraq, then murdered Ghaddafi when it was convenient in the most shortsighted self-gratifying move in nearly a hundred years. There was no vision to it, no hope, zero plan for stability afterwards, not even a claim for such, and damned sure no impetus to even maintain the standard of living the people already have.
And thats IF the US economy doesn't break under the strain
Really now?
and IF they don't outright get thwomped in a guerilla war.
How? Who will supply the guerillas? How will those supplies get there? Nobody in South America or Central America has BOTH the relevant stockpiles and the desire to arm the Venezuelan morons who trashed everything and pooped on the remains. The only forces large enough and organized enough are the Cartels, and they don't have ideological bones to pick, they just make money.

Name the nations in Central and South America that have the military stockpiles, the cash flow, and the desire to supply the Venezuelan shit for brains. Name them. Between Guyana, Colombia, and Brazil, which of those nations is going to host large cross border guerillas and train them? Ones who have a bone to pick with America, and not with Maduro's men? Colombia is already hosting over a million refugees, and some are flowing into Brazil.

They aren't refugees because America has invaded, they are refugees because Venezuela has collapsed thanks to Mugabeism. Venezuela is already burning to the ground, I'm just suggesting we shoot the arsonists.
 
So, you can't refute
You have made no claims, have actively engaged in bad faith, up to and including intentional misinterpetation of a posts, and have also engaged in intentional derailment, and repeated non-sequiturs. You have been reduced to meandering shitposting.
 
You have made no claims, have actively engaged in bad faith, up to and including intentional misinterpetation of a posts, and have also engaged in intentional derailment, and repeated non-sequiturs. You have been reduced to meandering shitposting.
Le Yawn again, my little imperialist shitposter. You wanna start posting all about mighty Murika will have a short and victorious war after your overbloated military loses again and again against farmers and nomads? You get torched because you bring arrogance and incompetence in a place where we don't suck your tits as a rule.

Try to have an effective military before gloating about its inevitable victory. ;)
 
Name the nations in Central and South America that have the military stockpiles, the cash flow, and the desire to supply the Venezuelan shit for brains. Name them. Between Guyana, Colombia, and Brazil, which of those nations is going to host large cross border guerillas and train them? Ones who have a bone to pick with America, and not with Maduro's men? Colombia is already hosting over a million refugees, and some are flowing into Brazil.

Cuba. Maybe Nicaragua, almost certainly Russia and China, because as I said before, the US can do fuck all to prevent them from doing as they please in Venuzuela, short of a full scale intervention that is.

The US might be able to block the former two from getting naval supplies effectively in though if they were willing to enact a blockade, a.... questionable move.

You have made no claims, have actively engaged in bad faith, up to and including intentional misinterpetation of a posts, and have also engaged in intentional derailment, and repeated non-sequiturs. You have been reduced to meandering shitposting.

Rufus makes a valid point in that your assesment of a Venuzuelan war... needs some work.
 
They cannot stop the tide of red blue and white.
??? Serbia is about to attack Venezuela?
Or maybe you meant red, white and blue :ROFLMAO:
 
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